Breeding Allotoca Zacapuensis

[fish48]

allotoca zacapuensis ( Lake Zacapu )
The first time I saw allotoca zacapuenis was in a friend’s fish house. At the time he only had a small colony of youngsters. Most of them were males. He was kind enough to give me to males and one female. I put them in a 2 foot tank and feed them plenty of live food. About six months later the female was due to give birth. As this was my only female I decided to put her in a small tank with plenty of plant cover hoping to save as many fry as possible. She only produced three fry giving birth to one each day and then she died. The young sex out as two males and one female so back to where I started once again I feed plenty of live food. They soon grew into mature adults eventually she had a brood of 17 and seven of them turned out to be females. I have hade many young from them and now have allotoca zacapuenis well establish. both sexes are a dull brownish colour with faint vertical bars. At certain times they get a very weak bluish colour on the sides of their body Finns are mostly clear with a slight colouration of yellow. Large adults will attack their new born it is possible to flock breed them they are best kept in a large well planned tank. I find. Females quite often produce young over a period of two days. Some females may go very flat belied after giving birth looking like the two sides have been pushed in but soon recover when feed plenty of live food. Average broods of 20. Larger females may produce over double this figure. They spend most of the time hiding in the plants except at feeding time.

Remarks I do a Walter change of 30 to 40 percent fortnightly. they do well between temperatures of 64f to 70f. and can go outside through the summer months they will eat most food offered to them. to keep them in good condition they should have some live food in there diet. I find the fry are quite vulnerable to sudden water changes in the first few weeks of there life..
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Female two weeks before giving birth

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female that has just gave birth to 20 fry



To prevent hybrids
All goodeids should be kept in a species tank

 

[Butch]

Interesting goodeids of yours...but about your advice on goodeids must be keep in their tank as species due to hybridizing, which isn't always have to.

I kept orangetailed goodeids and Ilyodon furcieons in same tank, they never hybridizing each other and I had no problems with my goodeids. So depends what species you can kept with other species where they can't hybridizing to each other. There are very few goodeid species which don't have any closest relatives which they can hybridizing with. Bulldog goodeids are one of these few goodeids can't hybridizing with other goodeids because of its physical body are different from rest of goodeids.

 

[fish48]

Interesting goodeids of yours...but about your on goodeids must be keep in their species tank as due to hybridizing, which isn't always have to.

I kept in same tank, they never hybridizing each other and I had no problems with my goodeids. So depends what species you can kept with other species where they can't hybridizing to each other. There are very few goodeid species which don't have any closest relatives which they can hybridizing with. Bulldog goodeids are one of these few goodeids can't hybridizing with other goodeids because of its physical body are different from rest of goodeids.

hi its good to see some one on here that know a bit about goodeids you are right orangetailed goodeids/ xenotoca eiseni and Ilyodon furcieons will not hybrid. however some of the not so closest relatives can hybrid with each other as you will know most people have never keept goodeds so my advice is to keep them in a species tank or we could end up with unwanted hybrids,

 

[helterskelter]

I would always keep one species per tank this is due to how rare they are risking an unknown cross entering main stream fish populations!!!!!!

unless ur sure you should not risk it!

 

[Butch]

Yeah I know, there are very few goodeid species cannot hybridizing with each other. Like guppies can't cross with platies. Ilyodon furciens cannot hybridizing with other ilyodons species, not sure which one of three ilyodon species. But for sure, who will to hybridizing with bulldog goodeid since this goodeid can reach more than 10 inch long and are predatory?

There are very few goodeids that can lay eggs.

 

[helterskelter]

This is exactly the point and for anyone who has never kept them they may think they can keep anything together. I like Ilyodon's got a great clip on youtube of I. ameca

http/www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbnXqAPFXFw

Fish48 has almost every goodeid thats in the UK and I've seen his amazing fish room something like 35 collections if them i believe as well as every thing else we all like to collect

Bulldog's these are amazing fish a real bugger to breed as well... I've never had any luck when i had them in the past


The egg layers are mainly the genus of Crenichthys and these look live characodon's and i would also love to try these at some point but I've never seen fish of this genus

 

[Butch]

There are three species of egglaying goodeids in the United States and they are endangered species. I love the looks of White River Springfish.

Bulldog goodeid remind me of oversized fatty gambusia.

What is smallest species of goodeids?

And what you means Fish48 has almost all of goodeid species? That means he missed one or two species, which is? I love goodeids!

 

[fish48]

There are three species of egglaying goodeids in the United States and they are endangered species. I love the looks of White River Springfish.

Bulldog goodeid remind me of oversized fatty gambusia.

What is smallest species of goodeids?

And what you means Fish48 has almost all of goodeid species? That means he missed one or two species, which is? I love goodeids!

the smallest species of goodeid skiffia bilineata

 

[helterskelter]

Skiffia bilineata is by far the smallest, and allotoca's are generally quite small.