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I am so upset .

Its only a fish .

has anyone else been so stupid to cry over a fish ?
 
Eh you did the right thing :good: , i almost took my sailfin pleco years ago when it was still a little juvenile, but i ended up keeping it as i was planning on getting a larger tank back then (which i did get in the end).

Never cried over a fish before, however when i lost my old female molly which i had had for just over 4 years, i felt really miserable for quite a while over her :sad: .
 
yes I have had him/ her for a while now and it was I guess the first fish I thought I want him.

I did get a bigger tank with the rio 400 but hed need a lot bigger and then who carries the tank etc.

I am now plucking up courage for the Bala sharks to go .

~I just cannot stop thinking that the lfs will just kill them.



they seem so content ..............
 
yeah i cried when i cut my fishes head off to euthanize it.....
 
oh that must have been so sad they look at you. I am sure my plec looked at me.

I am chocking thinking they will ethanise him.

I will need a stiff drink and a lot of hugs. Hubby's happy enough lol
 
I don't think they will euthanise (sp?) the Pleco. I went to my independent lfs this week (to take some Mollies) and he has two Commons and a Gibby in a large tank. They have been there a while so I think they keep them until they find a buyer. I would feel sad to see mine go too but you did the right thing. I don't feel sad when I take the Mollies as I know they are well looked after until they are sold. I have also seen display tanks in other fish shops which have large Commons which are not for sale and I think they keep them because they keep the algae down. :)
 
My wife didn't shed a tear, but it was hard for her yesterday when I took my common pleco to the shop.
It was getting too agressive with my sailfin. The sailfin was becoming quite a mess. That made it easier fo us to take the other away.
Ieven missed going to karate, thats how important it was. I had a bad feeling my sailfin was going to end up dead. But it seems to be improving.
 
Thanks yes I should have edited the spelling I don't think he was the size they usually keep he was in between really too large as a side tank cleaner and too small for there large tank.

I did not take him and hubby said they took him through the back which of course they would to check him over etc I just think though they cannot keep all fish. He told my husband he could bring him back if we desperate perhaps I should have waited.

I have chickened out of taken the Balas back I should not keep live stock as I finds it difficult to let them go.
 
yes I have had him/ her for a while now and it was I guess the first fish I thought I want him.

I did get a bigger tank with the rio 400 but hed need a lot bigger and then who carries the tank etc.

I am now plucking up courage for the Bala sharks to go .

~I just cannot stop thinking that the lfs will just kill them.



they seem so content ..............



How big was the sailfin? A rio 400 is not a bad size tank for a pleco, not all sailfins grow huge- mine only grew to about 1ft long and stopped growing after that (i don't know why, it wasn't a stunted growth thing, i think it might have been down to the poor conditions he was kept in for a long while at the lfs i got him from, totally starved for a long while there during the fishes critical juvenile growing period).
 
I think he was what they call a Gibbicep red and they grow very big if its the usual ones they have in the shop.

I'll say he flumpalump I called him was the palm of my hand at first and I'd say he was about 20 cm .

He used to hide in a log and he could not swim in witrh his sail up. He also started to get very wide and also I think he may have been responsible for the green barbs and the pictus catfish dying. Either that the Gouramis or its the Bala sharks.

I was very fond of him and its almost as if someone has died I am a fool to feel like this. I am quite cross with myself or hubby even as I would have liked a bigger tank but it does boil done to no research you suffer more than the fish.

Was reading on another post about killing a molly and the guy is right humane way may be best but I cringe at killing a spider.
 
He wouldn't have outgrown the tank at only 8inches/20cm long, but if you really didn't see yourself getting something like a 6x2x2ft or larger tank (the monster sized sailfins which grow up to 2ft long need something like a 6ft long by 3ft wide tank) in the future in case he turned out to be one of the really large growing sailfins, it was probably best to rehome him. At 12-13inches long a sailfin is ok in a rio 400, but any longer and you need to upgrade the tank, depending on his current growth it would have taken about 4-6months for him to reach 12inches long.
 
I have 4 Bala sharks 5 Clown Loaches and a pictus catfish that all fit the tank well now but will not in the near future.

I would like your opinion on how long to keep the rest of these or is everyone else right and will they need to be returned hubby thinks not as

4 Balas fully grown will be 52 Inches
5 clown loaches will be 35 inches
1 Golden gouramis 4 inches
1 Pictus catfish 8inches

=99inches of fish in 105 Gallons

1 inch per Gallon seems okay


I think the Balas will have to go soon although the Balas are about 15cm
 
In my honest opinion those fish are fine in your tank, or at least will be for the next 2-3years. Although there have been reports of 13inch long clown loaches and bala sharks, few bala sharks or clown loaches ever reach this size even if given optimal conditions in the home aquarium...Most clown loaches and bala sharks only grow to about 10inches long, and this often takes quite a few years for them to reach this size. Clown loaches grow very slowly, about 1inch every 4months maximum on average, i'm not sure about the growth rates of bala sharks though.

To be honest, i wouldn't rehome the clown loaches or bala sharks, their chances of getting anything better at a lfs and being bought by another customer is unlikely. And either way, you should have a couple of years to appreiciate them at the least and think about getting a larger tank for them in the distant future, a 6x2x2ft tank would be ideal for them in the future (and to be honest, such a tank isn't much larger than a rio 400 anyway) :thumbs: .

The pictus catfish (although i'm no expert on them) and the golden gourami have more than enough space in the tank anyway. Do you know the gender of the gourami you have? The dorsal fin on male golden gourami's is longer and more pointed than that of female ones.



Right now i would advise keeping the fish you have and concentrate on creating an ideal habitat for your fish to live in to help get the most out of the tank and the space it has to offer :nod: .

I would advise creating a planted area at one end of the tank for the gourami, with plants which grow right from the bottom all the way to the top of the water level in the tank, perhaps with a couple of floating plants too if you can get hold of them- this planting is important for gourami's, as in the wild they spend much of their time in densely planted area's.

The rest of the tank should be kept relatively clear, it should have a couple of caves for the pictus catfish and clown loaches to retreat into at the bottom of the tank when they feel like it. A fine soft sand substrate is ideal for such fish, but a fine rounded gravel substrate is acceptable, soft fine substrate is important for such bottom dwelling and feeding fish as it helps keep their barbels/whiskers healthy, as large rough gravel can damage such sensitive organs on such fish.

The rest of the middle to top of the tank should be kept clear to provide a decent amount of swimming space for the bala sharks :) .


I would say you have plenty of room for more fish depending on what types of fish you get. In a way, you are lucky you were able to rehome your sailfin pleco- i cannot get any medium or large sized plecos for my tanks since my common and sailfin plecos will not tolerate them, i can only get small plecos for my tanks. You now have a lot of options open to you if you are still interested in plecos, since there are a lot of very attractive plecos which grow to 12inches or less which are good for your size tank, like the beautiful Mango/Magnum pleco;

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/speci...?species_id=191

:thumbs: .



I would advise getting another filter for your tank though. The filters that come with juwel aquariums are good but tend to be pretty weak since juwel aquariums are primarily aimed at people that want densely planted tanks with low stocking/little bioload pressure stocking. In the past, i have always added more filtration with juwel tanks, usually placing a second filter at the opposite end of the tank works very well :good: .
 

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