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Hi, thanks for your reply. In the pinned thread on rams it says that bolivian rams are more comfortable with a higher p.h. So do you think I would stand a good chance of breeding the bolivian ram with a p.h. of around 8.( it says in the pinned thread 7.6) Also would I be better off getting 6 young rams and letting them pair off. Or getting a male and a female and hoping they pair up. Thanks JakesterP.S. If anyone as ever bred bolivian rams in harder water(and a higher p.h. 7.5-8.5) then I would to hear about it, thanks again Jakester.