Bettas chasing

[pretty betta]

I put one of my females with my male at 1:00 pm right now its 7:05 and they haven't tried to spawn once. How long is this chasing suppost to last?

 

[Andie]

Do you mean you just put her right into the tank with him? Or did you prep them beforehand? If you didn't let them see each other for at least a little while beforehand, then your male would have no idea he was expected to spawn today; he'd view her as an intruder and treat her as such.

I suggest any (or all, really, at a bare minimum) of the following links as valuable resources to spawning; I hope they'll help you out.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=37944
http/bettas.fishjunkies.com/Spawning/lesson1.php
http/www.bettysplendens.com/articles/catview.asp?catid=37
http/www.bcbetta.com/spawning.html

 

[RandomWiktor]

...Why does everyone feel the need to breed bettas, regardless of what they know about them?

Does your male even have a bubblenest? Is the female full of eggs? Did you prep them with proper diet and tank conditions? Did you let them see one another for a while first?

 

[pretty betta]

Their tanks where right next to eachother for 4 days. My male does have a bubble nest. The female isn't full of eggs (Someone told me that the female really didn't need to look like she's full of eggs.) The tanks temp seems right.

 

[Andie]

Did you actually place her within the tank in an enclosure of some sort before you released her, or did you just pop her right in? What size tank is this, and does she have plenty of plants to hide under to get away from him? Do you see vertical spawning bars on her at all (if she's dark-cloured) or do you see horizontal stress stripes?

...Why does everyone feel the need to breed bettas, regardless of what they know about them?

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And I was doing so well to hold that in ) I felt I ought to though since I'd feel hypocritcal for condemning a first spawn when I'm currently undertaking my own

 

[pretty betta]

Well I took a picture of her yesturday and I don't see any lines on her. I really don't know what size the tank is. Its a bit small, but not too small. Thiers one plant I put in there and she spends a lot of time in there and she hinds under their too.(Its plastic with a flat bottom.) I kinda just put her in thier. (Is that bad?)

 

[Andie]

I strongly, STRONGLY recommend removing her. Then go and read the articles I posted links to. Try to read even more than that, actually. The setup you have right now is more likely to end in tragedy than procreation.

 

[pretty betta]

Ok, I took her out. I didn't see any torn fins. But she freaked when she got back in her tank.

 

[Andie]

Big changes for her Now go and take a look at the other articles. If you still feel sure you want to do this, at least see if you can fix your spawning setup/procedure to be a bit more betta-friendly

 

[ral]

Did you actually place her within the tank in an enclosure of some sort before you released her, or did you just pop her right in?

Actually, I think some of the Thai breeders just pop them right in.

 

[SRC]

...Why does everyone feel the need to breed bettas, regardless of what they know about them?

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I think this alot these days

 

[Andie]

Did you actually place her within the tank in an enclosure of some sort before you released her, or did you just pop her right in?

Actually, I think some of the Thai breeders just pop them right in.

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When I've been breeding for twenty or more years I bet I'd be able to do that too

 

[ral]

With no offense to anyone. Sometimes I wonder if the drop them straight in method is done because it is "better" or because when you breed in bulk, there is no time to check each spawn as closely as someone who is just spawning a single pair.

Anyway, my breeding tank is preped. And about to do my third attempt.

My first two attempts using a opaque CT were both failures. Built nest, but no wrap as far as I could tell. This one is a completely new pair.

 

[Andie]

No offense taken I really also think that Thai breeders in general breed deliberately for tougher, "longer-lasting" bettas; ones much more likely to be able to withstand each others' assault. Western bettas are typically far more linebred and pampered, so they suffer little scratches much harder than "tougher" bred ones might.

While my own pair were aggressive during spawning in terms of the chase, there was little actual fighting and I think this was due at least in part to the fact that my male had the chance to experience the concept of the female being in HIS space; he was able to circle her, inspect her and even smell her as the water was exchanged between the net and his tank. When she was released he chased her to let her know he was on top, but she had already passed the status of intruder due to their prolonged exposure to each other.

Because neither of my bettas were subjected to the same rigorous "survival of the fittest" regimen that Thai breeders use, I suspect they would have been far less likely to survive the "here-she-is-now-come-and-get-her" approach that the same breeders employ

Best of luck with your current spawn attempt

 

[cell]

i bought 3 female bettas, soon to find that one of the females was a short finned male, and they spawned once, but of course thinking my male was a female i stuck a net in to scoop somthing out and destroyed the nest. they never did spawn again, but it was one happy boy chasing his ladies, somtimes they would all just swim around together, other times he'd try and persuade them to breed. but i guess its different when they have always lived together? since he was always thought to be a girl and never had to live in a iso cup, he sure had time to get used to being around the ladies