Betta Breeding Tank Opinions?

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I have fallen for the Betta, I saw some last night in a shop in such tiny little tanks, I dont think I could call them tanks really, like 4x4inch boxes, I wanted to save them all.

My daughter & I would like to try to breed these beauties & this morning I have come across this tank on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AQUARIUM-BETTA-SPLEN...A1%7C240%3A1318

Could I ask the Betta pro's on here what they think of it?

Would the male betta live in his side permanently? It seems like an ok size tank for him I think, with the right heater & filter.

Still at research stage, so any opinions gratefully received.
 
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Kari glad to see your exploring the fish world :p

Oh, and that tank looks amazing, and quite a bargain tbh. :|
 
Pretty but not really necessary... I don't quite get what you're supposed to do with it.

Generally, a single male betta requires a tank of between 1 and 5 gallons with 2 being the preferred minimum size. The tank needs to be heated (bettas are tropical fish) and filtration is optional but highly recommended. With 5 or more gallons you can consider adding tankmates like otocinclus, pygmy corydoras or shrimp. Community fish are generally not recommended as tankmates, although there are a few species that will sometimes cohabit with bettas.
You can keep multiple male bettas in their own tanks as described above, or in divided tanks (which save on power costs because it's cheaper to heat and filter one big tank than umpteen small ones.) The divisions should have a capacity of 2 to 5 gallons each, and should be shaped so that the betta can turn and swim comfortably.
Females can be kept individually or in a sorority tank with multiple females. Such a tank needs to be fairly large in betta terms (ten gallons minimum), filtered and heated, and contain no less than four or five females (this disperses the aggression). It should also be well planted and well furnished with hiding places. You also need to be prepared to remove the odd fish that causes problems, as sometimes you will get either a tank bully or a tank runt that all the other fish gang up on.
Males cannot be kept permanently with females, and if that's what the tank above is suggesting, then its not going to work.


Breeding bettas is not easy, I have just come out the rough side of yet another failed attempt - I did everything by the book, spent plenty and again the male attacked the female and I didn't get eggs.
Before you breed, you need to condition the male and female. This means two weeks of very good feeding, more than they would normally get and mostly live and frozen foods. After this time, most breeders use a setup involving a half full ten gallon tank. The tank should be bare bottomed. Then a lot of hiding places are created, and a large glass jar is put in the tank. Between the glass jar and the wall of the tank, you can wedge half of a styrofoam cup (or float a piece of bubble wrap on the water). This is where the male should build his nest. Usually the male is conditioned in the spawning tank, and after the two weeks, the female is put in the glass jar (referred to as the chimney).

She should be left there for two days. If she hasn't already filled with eggs she will do so now, and the male will build his nest. After this time the female can be let out. Usually this will result in a spawning.


So TBH I don't see what the flash tank does. The 'female section' is large enough to be a sorority, but IMO it's not a good idea to keep females where they can always see the male... this will result in them being perpetually full of eggs and they could become eggbound and die. I just don't see the sort of breeding setup I'm used to in that tank. The other side is large enough for the male though, definitely. Hmm... I wonder if the idea is to keep a number of females on the large side and one male on the other, and then let a single female through at a time? If so, I don't think it will work - not only will it result in more fry than you can handle, but eggbound females, a stressed male, and perhaps some messy lines as well if multiple females are used.

By the way, before you start investing in breeding equipment, have you got a way of heating and cleaning potentially 100 small containers? A betta spawn can involve 200 or more fry, of which about half will be male. They will need to be separated at least a month and a half before they are large enough to be sold, or they will start killing each other. If kept in the usual sized growout cups (which are about the same size as the pet store cups, fortunately they are temporary!) the water will need to be changed twice a day to keep the ammonia down.

If you have the space and the time, it's definitely worth it... bettas are amazing, I can't get enough of them, and it's a real shame mine Will Not Breed.
 
the way the tank is meant to be used is for the male to go on the large side and the female on the smaller side, the male then blows the nest etc and female is released to the males side,

the same way as we use a chimney for the female except this tank has a whole section for her
 
Thank you for all of the replies, the tank I was imagining would be a full time home for the male, & the divider & female would be placed in temporarily, the female then released to the male at the right time, then removed.

Lots for me to read & consider thank you & thanks for the tip about lots of containers for the males, space & time I have, but my knowledge is lacking so I am going to research some more, thank you everyone :good:
 
The fact that you're doing your research before you start randomly buying bettas is the biggest sign that you're probably going to succeed... breeding bettas seems to be mostly research and patience.
The tank WOULD work if used as x0x.love.you.x0x suggested but it's a lot easier to use a plastic container, a glass tank that would only be used a few times seems a little OTT.

One of the biggest things to consider is where you're going to get your bettas from. The males you see at the pet shop are generally around 8 months to a year old, which is well past peak breeding age - they aren't bought by the LFS until they are this old, because people want the big ones with big fins. They are also mostly veiltails - while they are as full of character and as pretty as most of the 'fancy' strains, they are very common and you will find it difficult to rehome all the fry when they are grown up. You will certainly not get a return on the money you put in - breeding bettas can get expensive, and excluding the initial outlay on the pair it costs the same to house, condition, breed and raise fry from an outstanding show class pair or a mismatched pair from the pet store.

Depending on where you are, it's usually possible to get some of the rarer strains through pet stores. Even crowntails (which have become a pet store staple in Australia where other strains are virtually unheard of except through breeders) will provide better quality fish to work with, and a much better prospect of finding good homes for all the offspring and maybe even making a bit of money.
 

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