Barb Mouth Problem

[mikev]

Hi,

I've noticed today that one of my barbs developed a white spot on the upper lip. The spot does not look like fungus, no threads are visible from it. Any suggestions on what this might be and how to best treat it?

(the colors on the picture below are shifted, the spot is almost white).

Water changes, of course (even if the water parameters are ok), but what kind of meds?

TIA!

 

[WILDER]

Looks bacterial, has the white spot got a red circling around it or a red spot in the centre.

 

[mikev]

Hi, Wilder, and Thanks.

Looks bacterial, has the white spot got a red circling around it or a red spot in the centre.

No, I don't think there is a red circling or red spot.

TBH, I've never seen anything like this.

 

[WILDER]

Could he of damaged the mouth, i would treat it as bacterial for now can you issolate the fish.
What are your water stats in ammonia,nitrite,nitrate, and ph.
Seen white spots on the mouth before it can by the beginning of mouth fungus columnaris.

 

[mikev]

Could he of damaged the mouth, i would treat it as bacterial for now can you issolate the fish.
What are your water stats in ammonia,nitrite,nitrate, and ph.
Seen white spots on the mouth before it can by the beginning of mouth fungus columnaris.

0,0,?,6.5 (ran out of the nitrate test, but it would be low, checked a couple of weeks ago)
Unfortunately cannot isolate the fish -- using the Q-tank for something else.
Tetracycline bath makes sense? Otherwise it would have to be maracyn into the tank, and I really would rather not until have to.

Oh, btw, I've collected some interesting data on parasitic infections in loaches -- if you remember the last time we talked. I'll PM it, if you want.

 

[WILDER]

Yes please pm it me.
Try the baths, good luck.
Tetracycline 400 mg/L for 1 hr. daily for 7 days
100 mg/L for 1 hr. daily for 7 days
bacteria Saltwater fish only
Freshwater fish only

Many resistant strains


Freshwater fish only

Many resistant strains

 

[mikev]

Yes please pm it me.

pm'd

Try the baths, good luck.
Tetracycline 400 mg/L for 1 hr. daily for 7 days
100 mg/L for 1 hr. daily for 7 days

You mean: 2 weeks of treatment, first 400mg, then 100mg?

Many resistant strains

Sounds encouraging...darn.

Thank you!

 

[WILDER]

I'm not sure it dosn't make it self that clear does it, but you can use antibiotics for two weeks to make sure the desease has gone completely.

 

[mikev]

I'm not sure it dosn't make it self that clear does it, but you can use antibiotics for two weeks to make sure the desease has gone completely.

Got you, thank you.

Actually, I've seen this -- but much smaller white spot -- a couple of times in the past, Odessas. Both times it went away by itself within a day, and the last time was two months ago. This time it looks quite big. All right: I just did a 40% water change, and I'm going to wait till tomorrow. If it does not get better, TC baths.

 

[WILDER]

Yes they can clear on there own with water changes.
But that looks quite bad, good luck.

 

[mikev]

Yes they can clear on there own with water changes.
But that looks quite bad, good luck.

Thank you!.
Will see what happens, I'll let you know.

 

[mikev]

Hi, WIlder,

Update:

It seems to be getting slowly better without treatment.

At least I now know what it was: apparently this guy jumped out of the tank few hours before I noticed the problem...I was not around when this happened, and my wife only now told me.--uggh. So it is probably more trauma and not infection.

Sorry for bothering you: if I knew about the accident, I'd have not posted.

 

[WILDER]

Good you found out why anyway. Good luck.