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Awwwwwww Poor fishies!!

There has already been a post on this I think. Are these the same as "glofish" (www.glofish.com) they seem similar.
anyway, IMO, it isnt as bad as dyeing, as it doesnt harm the fish.
(quote from website)
"Taikong insists the GM fish, designated TK-1, is safe, sterile and that its additional fluorescent gene is harmless."
(end quote)
I would be more worried about the usual ramifications of genetic modification: i.e: how do we know its safe, what if there was somthing they missed and the fish reproduce or take over an ecosystem, or somthing like that.

Edit:
sorry, read the article a bit better:
they say at the bottom:
"in particular, some tropical fish are being bio-engineered to tolerate cold and could colonise UK waters if they escaped, disturbing the present ecosystem."

and also

"According to Derek Lambert, of Today's Fishkeeper magazine, GM piranhas could survive in our waterways and pose a major problem. He is urging traders to boycott the TK-1."

this guy says:
"Keith Davenport, of the Aquatic Ornamental Trade Association (AOTA), commented that interfering with the genome was unnecessary and said people did not want animals to become fashion accessories."
(my opinion: they arent going to be any more a fashion accessory than any other ornamental fish...unless people start wearing "betta necklaces" with bettas in a little jar on the necklace....NO LETS NOT GIVE ANYONE ANY IDEAS!!!! sorry!)

So in summary i think the GM is more an issue than cruelty.
 
they look like green feeder fish.

if one fish ate a few would the gene beeput into his blood stream and make him temporarily glow? or will it just pass through his system and make glowing poo?
 
its so sick... why would any of u ant to own them????




this is the bit that worries me

Aquatic industry specialists are worried TK-1 may be the first of many GM pet fish destined for Britain. In particular, some tropical fish are being bio-engineered to tolerate cold and could colonise UK waters if they escaped, disturbing the present ecosystem.
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:blink:
 
It's just genetic modification. It doesn't hurt the fish any more then giving it tranquelizer. If it's being sold to the public, it's gotta be safe. It's bad business practice to kill off your customers.
 
nero said:
this guy says:
"Keith Davenport, of the Aquatic Ornamental Trade Association (AOTA), commented that interfering with the genome was unnecessary and said people did not want animals to become fashion accessories."
(my opinion: they arent going to be any more a fashion accessory than any other ornamental fish...unless people start wearing "betta necklaces" with bettas in a little jar on the necklace....NO LETS NOT GIVE ANYONE ANY IDEAS!!!! sorry!)

So in summary i think the GM is more an issue than cruelty.
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obviously you havent seen the purses with little betta bowls in them. Fish are already a fasion accessory for some people.
I think these fish were originally made to better study fish organs or something. The problem is someone got greedy.(as usual) What if these frankenfish did get loose and drastically change the ecosystem. Look what happened in Austrailia when they introduced non native frogs to get rid of the mosquitos. Now they are overrun with frogs that are killing off the native frogs. Also Where do we draw the line on genetic modification? If we say its ok for fish. Whats to stop some greedy pig of a human being, from genetically modifying other pets. Yep lets face it IMO animals would be better off if there were no humans. Humans cant live without the earth, and plants and animals. But the world would get along fine if not better without people. (people who care about animals are excluded of course.)
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Humanity is a burden on the ecosystem that goes without stating. However if these fish were released into the wild they would hardly stand a chance of living to an old age. They are just way too visible glowing in the dark. Sure it may give them some light to see, but fish for several 100 feet around could see him in the right conditions.
 
and they are sterile.
if they got into the local waters somehow, it just would not matter. they cant reproduce so it really does not matter if they got lose.
 
The other issue about if the fish "get into the wild" that no one seems to be addressing is that this is the same issue with a majority of fish we keep in aquariums. Many of them do not belong in the local ecosystems where they are kept. The bottom line is that no tropical fish should ever be released into the wild, genetically modified or not. There is a risk that these fish can damage the ecosystem too. The "released into the wild argument" should not even be brought up for this very reason. I don't see this as that big an issue, as there are already genetically modified "glo-fish" available. This doesn't hurt the fish (though it is also unneccesary) like dyeing does. And the same thing applies if this bothers you; don't buy fish from a store that sells these fish.

[EDIT]Personally I don't like them and wouldn't want them, but I don't think I'd have a problem shopping in a store that carried them. I doubt either of my primary LFS would bother with these fish.

\Dan
 
i see nothing wrong with Genetic modifacations but i do object to the fact that we do it without all the facts, We just don't have enought reseach and information to know what we do to them. Yes we know how to change the DNA of a fish but do we know every single bit of info abut what will happen?
 
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