Are water changes required?

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I have been somewhat neglecting my 120g fw lately as far as maintenance goes. Every day in the morning I turn on the lights, and in the evening I feed somewhat moderately, and then at night turn the lights off again. I have not done a water change for several weeks now, maybe for 2 months? I was doing water tests the other day and figured I would check the tank's nitrates just to see how out of control it was.. and they were 20ppm!!!! I was expecting off the charts. I realized that this is probably due to my plants keeping nitrates down.

My question is, if my nitrate levels are fine... then is there any point to me doing water changes? I have a tremendous clean up crew thanks to my snails and clams and theres never really any noticeable fish waste in the tank, and if there is it seems to dissapear pretty fast. The algae buildup on my walls of the tank is also very small, the fish nip at it enough to keep it down pretty much. It feels like my tank has reached 'equilibrium', and I don't really see any compelling reason to do a water change from here on out unless the nitrates rise. Can anybody give me any ideas on this, and/or any similar experiences?

The tank has been going since I guess february of this year. Am thinking I 'got things right' a few months ago, as far as knowing exactly how little to feed and getting the plants in and settled. As a side note, my plans are growing like crazy.

Robert
 
As far as I know a tank usually can't maintain itself. The only thing that even comes close is a reef tank IMO, what with all the invertebrates and live rock. But I still think you shouldn't neglect water changes. Nitrates aren't the only impurities in aquarium water.
 
Yes, Nitrates are not the only contaminants. Just think about all the tiny parts per billions of all the things that are in your house. Yes, not a great amount of kitchen cleaner or soap or fumes from cooking are getting into the tank, but if you given them time, they will build up.

But, even more critical is that water changes increase the buffering capability of your water. If you go too long, the nitrogen cycle is slowly trying to make the tank more acidic, the alkalinity has been keeping your pH fairly constant, but given enough time your pH could drop and quickly at that.
 
In a closed system like a aquarium, it is impossible to keep organic compounds from building up.

New matter is regularly being added to the tank in the form of food, without something being removed in its place, the food stays in the cycle, in some form.

Even live plants and bacteria can absorb only so much, and they have waste, too.
 
I've thought about this to is there a need to keep changing the water.?

We had a tank a few years back in 12 months it was only changed once,no fish died and the plants were ok,dad was surprised when i showed him on here that you do a part water change every week.
 
Old Tank Syndrome
It happens to the best of us. It was great when it started, but after a while the excitement of newness begins to wear off. You no longer rush home just to be near, and your desire to meet every need has diminished to the point where you just seem to be going through the motions. The honeymoon's over; you take for granted the things you once cherished. You hope it's just a phase, but deep inside you fear you're headed for....

Old Tank Syndrome.

OK, so maybe it's not quite true that "Aquariums are People, Too". But the analogy may be worth considering: a neglected or poorly maintained aquarium may superficially appear to be doing just fine, but disaster may be brewing beneath its surface.

Perhaps the most important concept to bear in mind is that home aquariums are very "closed systems" - in essence meaning that, with few exceptions, everything we put in the aquarium stays there, in one form or another, until we take it out. That ten ounce can of flake food, two bottles of water conditioner, and even the chemicals present in the top-off water added during the last six months, are all still in there somewhere - unless we have taken steps to remove them. Some of these chemicals will now be in "good" forms (for example, much of the protein in the fish food will hopefully be in the form of bigger, healthier fish), but others will occur in forms more detrimental to the well-being of our prized pets.

The first, and perhaps best indicator of potential problems is rising nitrate levels. As the end product of the breakdown of fish waste, nitrate is released into the water on a continual basis. In a neglected aquarium, nitrate accumulation knows no bounds, sometimes reaching several hundred parts per million. Many invertebrates and some fish are directly affected or even killed by high nitrite levels, but elevated readings should be of concern even to keepers of hardier fish. If nitrate levels are continually rising, it can be assumed that other, more threatening but harder to test, compounds are accumulating as well.

The same processes that reduce ammonia to nitrite to nitrate also produce an abundance of hydrogen ions, which, if left to their own accord, acidify the water. In water from some sources that contain few "buffers" (ions that help stabilize pH by combining with excess hydrogen or hydroxyl ions), pH will tend to decline steadily just as the nitrate increases, and again regular pH testing may help alert the aquarist to impending trouble. However, in more heavily buffered water, an interesting but more threatening phenomenon occurs. As hydrogen ions are produced, they are immediately tied up by the buffer ion, and the pH remains roughly the same - until all the buffer ions are used up. At this point, the pH drops rapidly, and this sudden "pH crash" can be very damaging to fish.

If this process is allowed to continue (and a few, very hardy fish survive), another interesting biochemical phenomena occurs. At a pH of about 5.5 or less, the bacteria that usually convert ammonia to nitrite are inhibited, so ammonia levels begin to rise. Strangely, though, the low pH actually protects the remaining fish by keeping the ammonia in the non-toxic ammonia (molecular) form instead of the very toxic ammonium (ionic) form! It is not uncommon to see an old, neglected tank with a pH reading off the bottom of the chart, ammonia and nitrate off the top, and a couple of old-timer fish still swimming about.

In some cases, aquariums get little maintenance, but need to be "topped off" regularly with additional water to replace that which has evaporated. If the source water is buffered and its addition frequent, the pH crash and resultant ammonia rise might be forestalled, but a new problem is encountered. When water evaporates, only pure, clean, H2O leaves the system; all the other minerals and impurities are left behind in the aquarium. Adding more water means adding more minerals (and by definition buffered water has significant amounts of minerals), in effect concentrating them. Such aquariums often show acceptable pH and ammonia levels, but high nitrates and hardness.

In some rarer situations, notably in "natural" or some reef aquaria in which plants, rather than bacteria, are the primary nitrogen consumers, the inhabitants could be suffering even if nitrate and ammonia readings are very low, and pH steady or a bit high. Rarely is any aquarium so well balanced that no by-products are accumulating and no necessary elements are in decline.

In either of the above scenarios, the fish that survive such declining water quality often become mere shadows of what they could be. Poor conditions limit growth and color, and may contribute to conditions like "hole-in-the-head" and " head-and-lateral-line-erosion". In fact, the old myth that "a fish will only grow to the size of its container" may well be attributed to the stunting that occurs in poorly maintained aquariums. Other fish may appear to remain unaffected, at least to the casual observer, which may lead to yet another calamity.

An unwary aquarist is most likely to be rudely awakened to Old Tank Syndrome when he attempts to add new fish to his existing collection. Many fish "shock out" upon introduction to this very different, harsh environment and simply perish within a few hours. Others may survive the initial shock, but the acute stress of this radical change in environment weakens them, making them more susceptible to infection. Ironically, disease-causing parasites may well be so successful at attacking these weakened fish that they quickly multiply to epidemic proportions, and wreak havoc on the original residents as well.

The aquarist might be inclined to blame the dealer for "selling sick fish"; after all, he hadn't lost any fish or seen a sign of disease in several months - or maybe years - before making this purchase. "Obviously," he argues, "there's nothing wrong with my aquarium, or all my fish would have died long ago". But that isn't necessarily the case. The original inhabitants had the opportunity to become slowly accustomed to waste buildup. The hardier specimens adapted to the chronic stress and survived. Weaker individuals were overcome one at a time, perhaps over a period of months, and their deaths attributed to natural causes.

We'll leave this aquarist and dealer to wrangle over replacement policies, just as many others have done before them, but hopefully take with us the knowledge that such tragedies don't need to happen. Good, regular aquarium maintenance is both the prevention and cure for Old Tank Syndrome.

Filtration - at least "mechanical" and "chemical" filtration - can remove some specific compounds from the water, providing the filter media is cleaned or discarded periodically. "Dirt" that is stuck in a filter cartridge or adsorbed in a chemical media is still part of the aquarium environment until the cartridge or media is removed from the filter. Interestingly, "biological" filtration does not actually result in the net removal of waste; it simply converts one form into a different, hopefully less dangerous form (for example toxic ammonia is converted to less toxic nitrite and then into relatively safe nitrate).

But no filtration system removes everything, and there tends to be a continuous accumulation of waste products and other compounds in every aquarium until - you guessed it - a water change is performed. A 25% water change removes 25% of the nitrate and ammonia and restores 25% of the buffers, all in one fell swoop. Water changes can be performed as often as desired, assuming that there is suitable water readily available, and should be performed as often as necessary to keep nitrate and pH levels stable. A typical aquarium might require a minimum of 25% changed every two to four weeks, while a crowded or overfed tank may need to be serviced weekly.

If a tank is found to be experiencing Old Tank Syndrome, water changes are again the treatment of choice, but care must be taken not to attempt too great a change at once. Sudden changes in environment are always stressful to fish, even if the changes are for the better. Furthermore, if the aquarium has already gone into the low pH / high ammonia phase, a rise in pH will change non- toxic ammonia into lethal ammonium and lead to catastrophe. Daily changes of 15% to 20% are safer and as effective as the one-time 50% to 90% cleaning we might be tempted to perform. Constant monitoring of pH, ammonia and nitrate are highly recommended during this process. If ammonia levels remain high while pH is being raised, it is wise to back off the water changes for a few days to allow the ammonia-eating bacteria the chance to catch up.

Once proper conditions have been restored, a regular maintenance program, including water changing, filter cleaning and perhaps chemical testing, should be set up and followed. A well- maintained aquarium is a thing of beauty and wonder, and who knows, it just might rekindle a long-lost flame.
 
That was a truely great post Silly me, i could not have said it better myself :thumbs:

One thing i will add is that in planted tanks you face yet another problem if frequent water changes are done. Plants absorb mineral nutrients from the water and if these are not added to periodicly then this too can cause the water to become unstable and the pH to crash, not to mention that once their nutrient source is depleted the plants will begin to wither, then die and then rot and add to the nitrogen cycle.
 
Thank you for the post. I think the parts about the ph that everybody has informed me about is really the big deal for my setup. I hadn't considered that the buffering would be a problem.

As far as the build up of other chemicals, I do realize this is a problem but I guess I just haven't seen the effects of it yet. Unless I would be adding RO/DI water, I don't see that I would be diluting the water very seriously.. although it would help some I suppose!

Thanks for all the information everybody. Definitely a good post :)

Robert
 
I barely had mentioned this in the thread, and I believe my tank crashed! :( :(

I woke up this morning and one of my queen arabesque plecos was out kind of in the open, quite rare, and then i saw it kept going to the top of the tank and when it got back down bubbles would come out from it. I later realized that plecos can inhale air to breathe if water is bad, so this is what I think was going on....

I did a 20% water change, and by the time I came back at night, ALL of my plecos were doing it and things looked altogether bad. Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 20. Temp 80'F. No PH testing available........ so I lowered the water level to allow my pump outtake and powerhead to agitate the water surface for more O2 introduction; added dechlorinator to the water ( i was afraid i had messed up this morning in my barely-awake stupor.. doubtful though ); and then finally I did a ~30% water change.. that got the plecos to go back to normal.

This morning I also stirred up the sand bed real strong and a lot of bubbles came out. I was afraid that I poisoned the water by doing this.

Also, I had an angel die mysteriously with no discoloration/anything about... 1 week ago? It was simply lying down on the floor of the tank. Everything else in the tank has acted normal and the same for well over 6 weeks. Some clams are 'opened up' (so eaten -- dunno if they died on their own account or a loach has been stronger and tore them open)...

Any information on this would be greatly appreciated. My strategy right now is to just keep doing large water changes if I see any symptoms, and if I do keep seeing symptoms I will start doing 2 water changes a day for a week perhaps.


Robert
 
With all the inverts in your tank If you dosed for the plants ill bet you could scra[e by with a substrate vacumeing and 19% every 2 weeks but you are rather heavily stocked. I think Java moss would be a good investment too. Looks like a great tank but if your going to monkey with the maintaience cycles you will need to up the tests
 

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