API tap water conditioner no longer sold on amazon (mitght switch to prime)

[Rocky998]

So I've used the API tap water conditioner for a long time now and I've loved it. I usually order it off Amazon along with some other stuff I might want or need at the time because its fairly cbeap on there. But now I've tried looking for it, and it's not sold anywhere on the site?? They have other API products, but not the normal tap water conditioner.
At least Amazon sells prime, though. So I'll probably be using that now. But my main question here is if it's safe to instantly switch from using API to using Prime? I don't want to shock the fish. I'm thinking it's perfectly fine, but I just want to make sure.

 

[CaptainBarnicles]

You should be fine

 

[TwoTankAmin]

There is one difference as far as I can tell from the API site. Their Tap Water conditioner does not detoxify ammonia while Prime does so.

It looks like API has decided the fact that their Tap Water Conditioner doesn't detox ammonia has made it less in demand and may be discontinuing it. I would attribute this decision to the fact that API has other dechlors that do detox. ammonia and that many water companies now use chloramine.

When the chlorine component of chloramine is removed that leaves the ammonia component. In most cycled tanks the bacteria are able to handle the ammonia. But to be safe from higher residual chloramine levels being about to render ammonia harmless is desirable.

I have excellent well water and never need to use dechlor of any sort. However, I dislike those which contain slime coat protection, especially if this is aloe vera. Prime detoxifies the ammonia by converting it to ammonium. While the bacteria prefer ammonia they can use ammonium albeit less efficiently. In a cycled tank with fish this offers extra protection which I believe is not really needed as the rersidual ammonia level is minimal.

In tanks with an acid pH (<7.0) ammonia turns mostly into ammonium naturally. So there is usually no need to have a chemical for doing this.

I do have small bottles of both Prime and Amquel. I use them when bleach dipping plants so I can immediately put them into a tank after the dip and tap water rinse, I do a dunk in dechlored water. I also used to sell at fish events where I had to use some amount of the hotel tap water which I do need to dechlorinate.

 

[connorlindeman]

Still available on amazon canada and Germany. Petco still sells it. I highly doubt that they would discontinue.
API Tap Water Conditioner is the best conditioner on the market. Fewer chemicals, less issues for fish. And its very concentrated.

 

[Essjay]

It's still available on UK Amazon as well. And it's still listed on API's website.

 

[Rocky998]

You should be fine

Thank you!!

Yeah, I agree. I don't think it's discontinued, it's just that Amazon stopped selling it on their U.S market page, which is weird...
API wouldn't discontinue it like that. At least not now or any time soon. That product is one of their most popular items.

 

[GaryE]

Since I don't have chloramines, I'll take the API product over Prime anytime. There's a local dog supply store with about 2 feet of shelf space for fish, and they carry it.
Here, as there is a fair sized consumer boycott of US made goods, I'm waiting for someone to step in with an old school, cheap to make thiosulfate dechlorinator. There's a small local market company growing fast, with basic treatments. They haven't released that one yet. I am hoping it comes before I run out of the old stuff.
I don't want aloe, or other unnecessary bells and whistles. I just want to neutralize chlorine.
But switching between the two is no problem. If you have a fish that's been hiding its farts by blaming Prime, it may be embarrassed though.

 

[TwoTankAmin]

It might be on the site but trying to find it online in the states is not so easy. There is a difference between something still being in stock and thuus offerd by a few places still. But i would guess it is done in the states if Amazon cannot get it. I have used Azoo Micro temp controllers for sometime. They got harder to find and the place I was getting them from had them listed on their site and I ordered two more recently. They emailed me ab short time later saying they had been discontinued and they no longer had them and were refunding my payment. I can still find a few in stock online but they are now 50% more than I just had refunded. I wont pay that.

Also- I am seeing the 16 oz. API tap conditioner size out of sock in some places and, where it is available, it appears to be on sale for almost 1/2 off. This suggests they may be trying to run down their stock?

Since I do not need dechlor for my home tanks I really do not care about most of this. I am done selling at events so I don't need dechlor for that reason. The only thing left is bleach dipping plants. And I have been doing more shrimp and a few single sex BN to help. The only tank where I can not do this is my clown loach tank. They would eat shrimp and they do not tolerate smaller plecos who want to hid in the same places.

And don't forget that AOPI has other dechlors still available- stress coat, Turtle care etc. How many fish keepers use Sodium thiosulfate the cheapest dechlor which does nothing for the residual ammonia in chloramines. In a cycled tank this is not usually a real issue as the amount is low level and normally handled by the bacteria and/or live plants for the NH4 most of it will become.

 

[GaryE]

You have to know what your water is treated with.. I have never had chloramines to neutralize, just chlorine. It's easy to deal with.

 

[Magnum Man]

I didn't find it either... lots to choose from...

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=aquarium+chlorine+remover&crid=VF6C3BX5P968&sprefix=aquarium+chlorine+%2Caps%2C174&ref=nb_sb_ss_p13n-pd-dpltr-ranker_1_18

do you know the difference between the aquarium and pond chlorine remover from API???

on the farm, I've never had to use a chlorine remover

 

[Essjay]

do you know the difference between the aquarium and pond chlorine remover from API???

According to the safety data sheets they contain exactly the same ingredients. The pond version comes in larger bottles since ponds are usually a bigger volume than aquariums so more is needed. The dose rate on API's website is the same for both (1 ml per 10 gallons) though I don't trust this as my bottle of Tap Water Conditioner gives a different dose rate from the website.