Anyone Know What These Are

[Awol]

only got my tank off my uncle whos had it for years he was on his holidays when i got it so im looking to idenify a few fishes

think the fish above is a platy although there are 3 other ones they are all smaller and have black spot markings all over them but the orange one above is bright orange with black fins


the one below i bought out of the lfs they said they were flying foxs and dont get to big are they right

 

[babybell911]

I'd say platy

 

[Awol]

hit the wrong button first was just checking the pictures worked post updated

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

The red and black fish is a platy, the other fish is an oto ;

http/www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/speci...?species_id=107

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[loafybones]

The orange one is a Platy and the stripy one looks like an Otto (Flying fox) I think they get to about 5'' long

 

[Awol]

cheers for the replys

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

The orange one is a Platy and the stripy one looks like an Otto (Flying fox) I think they get to about 5'' long

Oto's are different fish from flying fox's, oto's only grow to 1.3inchs long- check the link above.

 

[loafybones]

OOOPS!!! I didn't know that sorry.

Have to slap the bloke at my LFS who told me they are the same thing!!

 

[emma12321]

otocinclus is the full name if you want to google it. They only grow 2 inches and should be in groups of 3+

Emma

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

OOOPS!!! I didn't know that sorry.

Have to slap the bloke at my LFS who told me they are the same thing!!

Yeah you have to be extra careful especially with catfish when ID'ing them as there are many that look very similar particually when they are small/juevinile .
Only the other day i went to my lfs and they had some tiny pleco's that looked almost exactly like clown plec's- i was certain at first they had mislabelled them wrong with a whopping price tag (£23.00), but they turned out to be another rarer species of pleco, the only noticeable difference being their stripes were ever so slightly more orange than normal clown plecs.

 

[Scott MacAdam]

looks to me like a CAE and if so your looking at 6 inches.....

the top seems to be a platy

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

looks to me like a CAE and if so your looking at 6 inches.....

the top seems to be a platy

Check out this link with pics of oto's, i'm 100% certain that it is an oto and not a CAE;

http/www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/speci...?species_id=107

 

[Scott MacAdam]

well then.... convicing....hahahaha

just for comparison

http/www.tropicalresources.net/phpBB2/fi...s_aymonieri.php

although now i see your point in looking at the textures of the body and comparing the lateral lines and such,

are these fish closley related...?
VERY similar.....

The ventrical stripe DOES pass right through the tail so you win this one, in a CAE it does not, something overlooked ! hahaha!

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

well then.... convicing....hahahaha

just for comparison

http/www.tropicalresources.net/phpBB2/fi...s_aymonieri.php

although now i see your point in looking at the textures of the body and comparing the lateral lines and such,

are these fish closley related...?
VERY similar.....

The ventrical stripe DOES pass right through the tail so you win this one, in a CAE it does not, something overlooked ! hahaha!

I'm not sure how closely related they are, but they can look very similar particually when young- i would say the main differences are apart from size, the white and black stripes in oto's is much more clear/defined than on CAE's, where the CAE's it can vary in shades (from black, grey to brown or even silver or beige) and is often patterned.

 

[TwoTankAmin]

CAE is a Cyprinind
Otocinclus is a a Loricariidae (there are 20+ dif species of oto identified and scientifically described)

They are not related.