Another Ill Clown Loach!

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as before in my last posting, (last week)i have yet another poorly clown loach!!! i now have a baby loach in a fry tank who doesnt look good, he is very thin and has clamped fins. he will eat when i put blood worm in but that is about all he does. now my clown loach who is nearly five and a beefy looking fish, has a white cloudy spot on one of his eyes. the fish i posted about last week had the same, and he has since died. i know that clown loaches are hard fish to keep, i have put white spot med in the tank but have been told that loaches dont like it? my levels in the tank are fine and i do a 25% change every week. i just want to know what this eye problem is? are they going blind? in my 60 litre tank i have 2 mollies, 5 tetra, 1 plec, 1 swordtail, 1 rainbow shark 1 guppy 1 guorami and my sick loach. any help or advice would be great

thanks
 
as before in my last posting, (last week)i have yet another poorly clown loach!!! i now have a baby loach in a fry tank who doesnt look good, he is very thin and has clamped fins. he will eat when i put blood worm in but that is about all he does. now my clown loach who is nearly five and a beefy looking fish, has a white cloudy spot on one of his eyes. the fish i posted about last week had the same, and he has since died. i know that clown loaches are hard fish to keep, i have put white spot med in the tank but have been told that loaches dont like it? my levels in the tank are fine and i do a 25% change every week. i just want to know what this eye problem is? are they going blind? in my 60 litre tank i have 2 mollies, 5 tetra, 1 plec, 1 swordtail, 1 rainbow shark 1 guppy 1 guorami and my sick loach. any help or advice would be great

thanks

Are you medicating in half doses?
 
your tanks severely overstocked. Until you reduce your stocking you will keep losing fish.

Can you post water stats please in ammonia, nirite, nitrate, and ph.

If the clown loach is skinny when still eating he could have skinny desease which is an internal parasite.

How big are the spots on the eye, size of a grain of salt or bigger.

Special problems:

There is a couple of things that you should keep watch for concerning Clown loaches. The most common problem is white-spot, these fish are easily struck down by this disease. This often occurs when the fish have been kept too cold or in newly bought fish after being transported. Habitual fish that are well cared for are not more susceptable than others, in the ten years that I have kept these fish privately, I have only had white-spot once. For safety´s sake always have white-spot medicine at home if you acquire botia, it can save lives. White-spot is easily cured but can be a catastrophy if not treated.



N.B! follow the dosage instructions carefully for all medicines, some medicines recommend half the normal dosage for just loaches, because they can be sensitive to some ingredients, mainly coppercombinations.



Loss of weight or "skinny disease" is also quite common in Clown loaches. Typical symptoms are loss of weight and behaviour known as "knifeback" even though the fish is acting and eating normally. This sickness is more difficult to treat, it comes from a parasite organism (spironucleus) in the intestines of the same type that is thought to cause the so called "discus disease". I have successfully removed this disease from newly imported fish by using Spirohexol from JBL in the form of tablets. I have taken one tablet and crushed it and dissolve it in as little water as possible. I have then used discus granules which have been soaked in the solution. It becomes like a thick porridge after a short time when the food has drawn in the liquid. I then feed this to the sick fishes, after a week it looks like the sickness is gone. For the best possible effect do not feed with any other food. Flagyl (Metronidazole) also helps fight against this sickness but at least here in Sweden it is on prescription and can be a little difficult to come by.



Apart from this Clown loaches are not more susceptible than other fish, the above sickness usually occurs in fish that have been stressed during transport or subjected to other stress factors like cold water or poor aquarium hygiene. Do not buy fish that look emaciated! Well looked after fish are seldom sick. To quote my friend Elisabeth Hallberg; "the best way to avoid sickness is to keep the fish healthy".

Info take from here.
http://www.bollmoraakvarieklubb.org/artiklar/praktbotia/clown%20loach.htm
 
thank you both for your prompt replies. i have put in white spot in half dose as i had heard that loaches dont like it. the eye problem to me looks more like a mikey cloudy colour than an actual white spot??? steve as we call him has never had any problems before. it looks like a cateract?? if fish can get them, we are hopefully getting a 400 litre tank and hopefully will have it up and running by christmas. how long would you advise to keep the skiiny loach, we call him randall?
thanks again for your prompt replies
 
I would check your water quality.
Bad water quality and whitepsot can cause the problems your fish has with his eye.

You will be to treat the skinny fish with a parasite med called jbl Spirohexol if in the uk.
You will need to buy the med online.

Get you some info on the med.

Scroll down to no. 15

http://www.jbl.de/dl_documents/uk/uk_WWW4.pdf

Or this med.
Flagyl (Metronidazole)
 
once again thank you for your help. randal my very thin loach has died!!! i have now gone out and brought a 260 litre juwel tank which is now cycling and now its a waiting game!!!! i have been half dosing with the white spot. i dont think its white spot as no other fish has it. steve just has one milky white eye. it was a sharp white sand grain looking dot but now it is completely milky????? thanks once again for your advice
 
Bless him.
R.I.P.

What about just adding your old sponges to the new filter and transfer everything over to the new tank.
Match ph and temp and move all the fish over to the new tank.
 
me again, we have taken your advice, we have wacked the temp up over night and have just now transfered all our fish over to the new tank and have placed the old tank sponges into the new tank. the fish love it!!! they have never had freedom like this!!!! steve the loach has stayed in his pot but no doubt he will make a trip out when i get out the peas!!!!! il keep u posted on how nthey are going and might ask you for some advice on what new fish to get, cos the tank looks bare!!!!!

thanks once again for all your imput

sarah and rob
 
That good news then.
Keep an eye on water stats.
Good Luck.
 

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