Angler Fish ?

[redhotlynn]

Hi there, wondering if anyone has a angler fish and do you have any comments about it I just got one ?

 

[superman]

what type did you get? They can be hard to feed, they can eat any and all other inhabitants, even those that are the same size as the angler. It may hide a lot, they like low lighting...that is about all I can think of right now. Most people keep them in a species tank.

 

[Aquascaper]

Species only from what i've read as they can, and will, take on prey the same size (and sometimes bigger) than themselves.
They require a tank at least 30g with loads of Live Rock to hide in and to ambush from and as Superman says, could be hard to feed, its recommended that you feed live feeder shrimp which of course will give it an appetite for any shrimps and other inverts in your tank making tankmates hard to come by.

 

[Navarre]

I have seen photos of Frogfish/anglers that have eaten lionfish larger than themselves!! Species only tank to be sure. They will simply attack anythinbg that comes close enough... its like a reflex reaction IMO Lovely fish but nothing in the tank is safe with them.

 

[redhotlynn]

I have seen photos of Frogfish/anglers that have eaten lionfish larger than themselves!! Species only tank to be sure. They will simply attack anythinbg that comes close enough... its like a reflex reaction IMO Lovely fish but nothing in the tank is safe with them.

will it eat my xenias ?

 

[Aquascaper]

Crustaceans and fish only, not corals

 

[fraservet]

In terms of space, frogfish don't need a 30 gallon tank (unless it's a giant frogfish! they're like footballs (the soccer kind for any americans) with legs)
They generally just sit around doing nothing, waiting for food to appear.
The only concern with a smaller tank is of course water quality, but if you maintain it properly it's not a problem.
A frogfish on it's own would look lost in a 30g in my opinion.
A smaller tank with a sump or large external filter would be good.

Scott Michael - who seems to be the closest to a frogfish expert there is - talks about keeping them in a 15g(or was it 10g?) tank with just some live rock and an airstone with no problems.

Lynn - what tank do you have it in? and with what tankmates?

I would definately recommend a species tank in most circumstances.

Also what species of frogfish is it?

 

[Aquascaper]

In terms of space, frogfish don't need a 30 gallon tank

I was just quoting from the variety of sources thrown up when 'Frogfish' was entered into a search bar. They all seemed to point to a 30g tank minimum, largely due to the carnivorous diet and therefore high levels of waste produced, rather than the actual space requirements of the 5" fish.

A point often overlooked by the uneducated

 

[Chac]

I have seen photos of Frogfish/anglers that have eaten lionfish larger than themselves!! Species only tank to be sure. They will simply attack anythinbg that comes close enough... its like a reflex reaction IMO Lovely fish but nothing in the tank is safe with them.

will it eat my xenias ?

Only if you are lucky

 

[redhotlynn]

I have seen photos of Frogfish/anglers that have eaten lionfish larger than themselves!! Species only tank to be sure. They will simply attack anythinbg that comes close enough... its like a reflex reaction IMO Lovely fish but nothing in the tank is safe with them.

will it eat my xenias ?

Only if you are lucky

hes in a 10 gallon tank all by his self but hes doing fine just if anyone knows something I should know about him please let me know I really like him hes cool, don't want anything to happen to him. I will try to get a photo of him..

 

[fraservet]

In terms of space, frogfish don't need a 30 gallon tank

I was just quoting from the variety of sources thrown up when 'Frogfish' was entered into a search bar. They all seemed to point to a 30g tank minimum, largely due to the carnivorous diet and therefore high levels of waste produced, rather than the actual space requirements of the 5" fish.

A point often overlooked by the uneducated

Absolutely, I agree completely that waste production by large and/or carnivorous fish is often not taken into consideration - hence the idea of a small tank with a sump/external to add water volume while giving a good size tank for viewing.

Another point with frogfishes is that they produce faecal pellets which are usually fairly easy to spot and can be manually removed from the tank. This dramatically reduces the waste problem - so long as you are diligent in removing them.

 

[Navarre]

10 gallon tank.. frogfish... So now its just a case of more corals then? You cannot add any more fish to a tank of this size. )

 

[Aquascaper]

Not that you could....unless it was on a regular basis, ie. feeding time

 

[redhotlynn]

Not that you could....unless it was on a regular basis, ie. feeding time

i DON'T PUT ANYTHING IN THERE THAT HE CAN'T EAT LOL....

 

[superman]

redhotlynn, I don't want to come off as patronizing, I have no idea of your aquarium experience. I do hope that you are taking every measure to keep your water quality at a premium level in this ten gallon tank. It is quite easy to loose control of temp in a tank of this size in either direction. Frogfish are delicate, and need quite a bit of nurturing, especially when it comes to feeding them. I encourage you to do a lot of research on him, Reefcentral.com has some great threads about frogfish, by doing a search you can find them easily. Moving the frogfish to a larger aquarium would definitely help with the worry about water quality and water parameter stability. Good luck with your little guy, they are very easy to get attached to because of the helplessness of their physical traits (compared to other fish) and their minute size. Keep on reading, good luck.