Angels Vs Tangs

[svirid]

Good day,

I am very new here, and any advice will be greatly appreciated. I have been reading plenty of books
for the last couple of month and it seems that I have lotw of information but no practice, and I am still afraid to start
but I really want to.

I know exact fish that I like and want to keep, its tangs and angels.

People hear told me that tangs are more difficult to keep compare to angels.
Whats are my choices?
Should I have only angels tank or tangs?
what if I decide to get some other fish what woulb be a better neighbour?

Please need some help on this.

Also I am thinking to go with the 50-70 gal aquarium and use live rocks as biofilter.
Thank you very much for your help.

 

[Triggerobsessed]

If you want tangs you are goin to have to go with a tank 100 gallons or more. As far as angels go, a tank of 50 or 70 gallons would be fine for a dwarf angel like a flame angel or a coral beauty. The problem is that angels can really only be kept one per tank unless you hav a large tank. So to sum it up if you want an angel then choose one dwarf that you like and stock the tank with other types of fish

 

[Lynden]

Tangs do need space, but many could be acclimated easily to a 75 gallon tank, especially Ctenochaetus, Zebrasoma, and certain Acanthurus. Avoid the genera Naso, Prionurus, and any other species that tops out at near a foot or more in length.

The space required by large Angels, especially Pomacanthus, is far less publicized. These species roam over territories that can be measured in acres, not just feet. Thus, avoid the genus Pomacanthus (including the sub genus Euxiphipops).

Dwarf Angels can be mixed, but do not combine like species. Several can also be kept as a harem, such as the bicolour. Buy a group, and one will develop into a male and rule peacefully over the rest.

-Lynden

 

[svirid]

Thank you very much for replies.

Oh my god I am totally lost here now

 

[Lynden]

Why not a Trigger, or Wrasse?

 

[svirid]

Triggerfish, are they easier to keep?

I wanted to ask you if there is a place anywhere in a forum or maybe here
where they have a good and peaceful groups of fish that newbies can keep.
Probably somebody of you guys can really help me to make a good collection of
fish I can start with.

I like colorful with the shape of tangs or angels fish.

If I can get an advice for at least 4-6 fish to start.

Thank you very much.

Lost in the ocean...

 

[-germ-]

Gouramis are brilliant. Had mine a fortnight and they'll eat from my hand and'll even let me run my fingers on them as they swim past ( i may just be lucky, all my fish bar one angel are happy with me getting close). Also quite hardy fish (but NOT dwarf gourami).
They are also quite peaceful (or so i'm told) as long as you have all females.
Angels as i am learning are difficult to keep in groups, on their own they may not be happy and they need huge and therefore quite expensive tanks.
I wouldn't recommend them to a beginner (note; i'm a beginner and sometimes wish i didn't have any angels.)
I think 1st you need to get your tank and cycle it, its hard to know what you can keep without a definite tank size.
If you can ensure the size just post a topic; stocking ?? gallon tank and you should get some good advice.
EDIT: Ignore me i just noticed the tank size at the bottom of your first post....

 

[Triggerobsessed]

A chromis is a great schooling fish and are blue/green in color and can be kept in large groups. http/www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Di....cfm?pCatId=115 <--look at this.

 

[Lynden]

I find that Dwarf Gouramis are actually very hardy, but highly aggressive. My cousin had a male that beat the hell out of a Piranha that was bigger than it. But, they are fresh water fish, not marine.

There are plenty of fish that I would recommend for a 75 gallon tank, and those include the "marine betta", Calloplesiops altivelis. This animal is very docile, and bothers nothing (except for tiny fish, which will be regarded as
prey).

Also to be recommended are the mimic tangs,

Regal Tang,

Yellow Tangs

and Tomini Tangs.

Many triggerfish are also suitable, and amoung the most docile of all fish is the Pinktailed Trigger. It is also 'reef-safe'; moreso than many of the more 'popular reef safe' fish such as fairy wrasses, which too often wind up eating shrimp. It is as a bonus an attractive fish.

Also from this family comes the conspicuous "Humuhumu" Triggers, Rhinecanthus. These fishes are not totally "reef safe" since they feed on benthic crustaceans, and so will feed on most crabs and shrimp (but not an established cleaner shrimp, I would be willing to bet). They may also consume brittle stars and may bite the tips off Acropora corals (have seen this behaviour in the wild). But their personality, colour more than makes up for that in my opinion.

Another reefsafe trigger is the beautiful Niger Trigger. It is more aggressive than the Pinktailed. Below is a young specimen.

If you are feeling dangerous, you could also try the Clown Trigger. It at all costs must be removed from the tank before it hits about 8'' and becomes an absolute terror. But on the bright side, these fishes are very intelligent (have been reported actually using rudimentary tools) and has dazzling colour. They may eventually grow too large for a 75 gallon, but could easily be accomodated in a 100 gallon since tank specimens rarely exceed 9''.

Most of the butterfly fishes (Chaetodontidae) are suitable as well. Search FishBase (www.fishbase.com) to find if they are reefsafe or not; reefsafe fishes feed primarily on plankton and small benthic crustaceans.

The above are a tiny example of the fishes suitable for aquaria. I will leave the rest to you.

-Lynden

 

[-germ-]

I find that Dwarf Gouramis are actually very hardy, but highly aggressive. My cousin had a male that beat the hell out of a Piranha that was bigger than it. But, they are fresh water fish, not marine.

Oh yeah......
Errrr, should have checked the forum

 

[svirid]

Wow beautiful fish,

thank you very much for the information.
I will start setting up my aquarium and choose fish, when its done and it cycles
I will get back to you guys to get more info on who has to be introduce first who the very last.

Thanks again for your help.