Angelfish

[Betta5]

I have a breeding pair of angels in my tank, i have only ever had wrigglers (not a very successful baby raiser unless they are guppies) and the only wriglers i ever get is if i leave them in with the parents which eat them just after there tails come out. Well recently they have been doing there usual corting, but my 3rd angel has also corting my female. Both males dont even fight (they used to). I was wacthing the female lay eggs and it seemed that the males were taking turns to fert the eggs. I know it sound crazy, and i wouldnt have believed it if i didnt see it. Do you think all this inbreeding has made them crazy or someting (also eggs died to fungus).

Any opinions or thoughts?

Thanks
Sean

 

[ArauraDiscus]

If you want them to hatch. Setup a 10 gallon tank. Put the stone or surface they lay their eggs into the ten gallon ASAP. Buy Methelyne blue or acroflavin. Add enough to make the water a medium shade of blue and keep adding if it gets lighter. If using acroflavin, make it a medium shade of yellow. This will reatard all fungal growth and you likely wont lose a single egg to fungus. THey will hatch and float to the bottom of the ten gallon tank. Make sure the 10 gallon is bare as can be. They need nothing but a bubbler and a powerhead filter. Put the small powerhead in with a sponge attached tightly to the end, so it ddoesn't suck babies in. Wait until they become free swimming, by that time their yolk should be about used up. Start culturing napulii or baby brine as they hatch so the brine is ready for the free swimmers. Feed them that slowly, and suppliment with liquid or powder baby fish foods at your LFS. Walaaa, healthy packs of baby angels who grow to the size of a dime in 2 weeks, a quarter in a month, and are ready to sell in a little over a month.


P.S. as they grow enlarge their tank, or you will have many deformed youngsters due to growing up in a confined 10 gallon tank.

 

[Tolak]

Trios like that do happen at times, and often do produce a viable spawn.

If you want them to hatch. Setup a 10 gallon tank. Put the stone or surface they lay their eggs into the ten gallon ASAP. Buy Methelyne blue or acroflavin. Add enough to make the water a medium shade of blue and keep adding if it gets lighter. If using acroflavin, make it a medium shade of yellow. This will reatard all fungal growth and you likely wont lose a single egg to fungus. THey will hatch and float to the bottom of the ten gallon tank. Make sure the 10 gallon is bare as can be. They need nothing but a bubbler and a powerhead filter. Put the small powerhead in with a sponge attached tightly to the end, so it ddoesn't suck babies in. Wait until they become free swimming, by that time their yolk should be about used up. Start culturing napulii or baby brine as they hatch so the brine is ready for the free swimmers. Feed them that slowly, and suppliment with liquid or powder baby fish foods at your LFS. Walaaa, healthy packs of baby angels who grow to the size of a dime in 2 weeks, a quarter in a month, and are ready to sell in a little over a month.


P.S. as they grow enlarge their tank, or you will have many deformed youngsters due to growing up in a confined 10 gallon tank.

I, along with many other angel breeders, would like to know how you get that sort of growth rate. Hatching in a 10 gallon, then moving to a 29 after two weeks still gives you fry with perhaps 1/4" total length, with fins that have yet to develop. If you move them after a week the growth rate is not affected. Water changes don't affect this, feeding doesn't affect this, temperature doesn't affect this.

The shortest time anyone I know of has gotten dimes at is 5 weeks, and I keep in contact with plenty of breeders. Daily large water changes, heavy feedings, and jacking the temperature well into the 90's will give you faster growth rates, but not dimes after two weeks. You have to watch for bacterial issues with higher temps, this can occur quickly, and take out an entire spawn in a couple of days. The best way to combat this is large, 90%+ water changes daily.

For fungus, which is often an after effect of bacteria, try Maroxy or copper along with the meth blue or acriflavin. Most breeders come up with a combination that works best in their individual situation, this is often trial & error.

 

[ArauraDiscus]

OOOh I didn't tell you? I use nuclear powered brine shrimp! lol jk, sorry haven't bred my angels in 6 months actually, so I apparently way underestimated. I'm rusty lol, thanks for correcting me.

 

[Betta5]

Thanks for the good info i may try to raise the spawn soon, i have a 15 gallon they could hatch in then move them to a 4'x12"x18" tank i have (its just glass, pump and heater).

Thanks