Angel Fish

[roseykat5]

question on angel fishes .. i know one of them is female for sure but to find out if they fertilized, i dont know it ,never had a chance to find out as it got eaten with few hours after spawning so she must of ate it all and not sure if other one is male or female... i only have 2 angelfish so i know one is female for sure .... the black on is in question since someone said that the female will spawn in precent of other female they did fight i mean fight mouth to mouth i thought they were gonna rip each other i had to move them from 25 tall gal to 90 gal since they picked on the other tank mate in there ...they alll were hovered in the bottom corner so i moved them this morning and properly accimated them with both water its acloned tank anyhow so shouldnt be a plm only difference between tanks one is planted and ohter isnt ... ok so if i want to spawn them will they be ok in 10 gall if they are being bred ... it would only be temporary long enought to spawn them ... and i will get airstones and wanted to know what meds will help the eggs prevented from rotting b4 it got a chance to hatch ... any help will be appreciated its exciting to try and what do i need to do step by step to prepare them and eggs thanks e1 cheers

 

[Lateral Line]

AngelFish are cichlids - moved.

 

[Tolak]

There are a few things you need to get figured out before you decide to breed angels. You will need a home for 200+ small fish if you are successful. Most shops won't take angels unless they are at least dime size, and each dime size angel needs a half-gallon of water to grow properly without deformities, nickel size angels need a gallon each. Now, do the math, and figure out how much tank space you need for growing out.

You will need to set up a bbs hatchery; you will have little if any success without it. Live food triggers the feeding instinct of the fry; many including myself have tried doing without it at first. Learn from the mistakes of others.

A 10-gallon is not large enough for a pair to spawn in, they are vertical spawners and the water just isn't deep enough for the pair to make a good pass on a vertical object to spawn & fertilize. A bare bottom 20 high is the minimum needed for a pair, and you need to remove the spawn, not the pair. Moving the pair will often put them off spawn for a while, and in a small tank like a 10 there is a good chance that there isn't enough space for them to feel comfortable enough to spawn. Many pairs do bicker, and in a small tank this could be disastrous for the weaker member of the pair.

Your best bet is putting a divider in the larger tank with the pair having one section to themselves. Pull the spawn and hatch it in the 10 gallon, you should be able to keep them in there for 2-3 weeks depending on the size of the spawn. You can go with a 20 or 29 after that, a few weeks later you will need to split them up again, or put them in a 55.

I've been hatching in 2.5-gallon tanks lately, and transferring the fry to a 10 or 15 after 5-7 days. I add 7 drops per gallon meth blue, 2-4 drops per gallon acriflavin, and 3 drops per gallon Maroxy to the hatching tanks for years now. On the 3-4 day after hatching I start doing 50% water changes daily, if I sense a problem I go up to 90% daily. They get at least 50% daily for the first two weeks, then I back down to 50% every other day. After about 6 weeks they are getting 50% weekly, more or more frequent water changes if I sense any problems.

Trying to explain fully how to breed angels over the internet is like trying to teach someone how to do a triple lutz online when they have bought a pair of ice skates. In both situations you have to bounce off your backside a few times before you start to get it right.

 

[roseykat5]

thank you it was really helpful and knowledgable ... and now that i know and can go from there ... i really apprecate the step by step and need to get another tank for grow out .... so i can use few tanks to do that