An oscar with a blue acara?

[Lynden]

About a year ago, I had a black tiger Oscar and a Blue acara in a 37 gallon tank with a jack dempsey, tinfoil barb, and a spotted pictus catfish. I noticed some orange eggs on a flat rock and the oscar was driving the other cichlids away while the blue acara was fanning the eggs. They eventually ate the eggs and spawned again later, with the same results. Soon i purchased an albino oscar and moved the fish into a 77 gallon aquarium, by then the pictus had died and i bought a suspicious looking grey catfish to replace it. The black tiger spawned with the albino twice over the summer, but both times the catfish, who is now about 11" long, overpowered the pair and devoured the eggs. Has anyone hatched eggs from these combonations?

 

[Synirr]

About a year ago, I had a black tiger Oscar and a Blue acara in a 37 gallon tank with a jack dempsey, tinfoil barb, and a spotted pictus catfish. I noticed some orange eggs on a flat rock and the oscar was driving the other cichlids away while the blue acara was fanning the eggs. They eventually ate the eggs and spawned again later, with the same results. Soon i purchased an albino oscar and moved the fish into a 77 gallon aquarium, by then the pictus had died and i bought a suspicious looking grey catfish to replace it. The black tiger spawned with the albino twice over the summer, but both times the catfish, who is now about 11" long, overpowered the pair and devoured the eggs. Has anyone hatched eggs from these combonations?

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I've never seen or heard of an oscar hybrid, and from what I've read it's most likely impossible. The pair probably ate the eggs because they were infertile and were starting to fungus

 

[Warrior]

Synirr is correct, they might spawn with each other but the Genus of a Oscar is way off from any other Cichlid. Kinda like breeding a Dog and Cat, both can be the same size, have a tail and 4 legs, but there just 2 differnt of a fish.

 

[juanveldez]

Synirr is correct, they might spawn with each other but the Genus of a Oscar is way off from any other Cichlid. Kinda like breeding a Dog and Cat, both can be the same size, have a tail and 4 legs, but there just 2 differnt of a fish.

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don't be so quick to judge guys.... as I have said a million times I have seen a JDxGT now those fish aren't in the same genus. heck they don't even live in the same parts of america( JD's being from CENTRAL america and GT's being from SOUTH america) so why couldn't a port acara and an oscar?

 

[Lynden]

The genuses Aquiedens and Astronotus are truely far apart, yes. But there eating, behavioural, and spawning patterns are quite similar. A. Pulcher, the Blue acara, (my fish) is very similar to Oscars when healthy, but their intelligence and personality are lesser to an oscar's. Green terrors are similar too. Keyhole cichlids are not as similar, they are much more docile. The pair did eat the eggs, but they had no signs of fungus or any pests or bacteria. They were very much fertile. I forgot to mention that the pair was very young, both under 1 year old. Also, i was dumb enough to put Malawi cichlids in the tank, who were pestering them constantly. I think this was the biggest reason they ate the eggs.

Thanks for the replies

 

[Synirr]

How do you know the eggs were fertile if they didn't hatch?
Infertile eggs last for several days before they fungus. My midas hybrid laid eggs all by herself once, no other fish in her tank, and they were there for about 5 days before they began to fungus. She protected them valiantly from the algae scraper and my hand, bless her. What a good mommy for the short time it lasted

Anyway, I seriously doubt an oscar could hybridize with any other species, they're just far too different. If they could, though, I'd love to see what the offspring turned out like.... so long as it wasn't like a blood parrot!

 

[Lynden]

I knew the eggs were fertile because they began to develop inside the eggshell, but this was along time ago, maybe I mistook fungus for development? I bred convicts alittle later, the acara eggs as i remembered developed the same way. The second time the oscar and the acara spawned, the acara laid the eggs on a very calcarous rock, and they just kinda flattened out and bit the dust.

Have you ever seen a albino/black tiger oscar eggs hatch? Im not sure what it would look like.

 

[sakaspuds]

albinos dont dont have albino offspring do they?, i thought it was just a fluke of nature, i'd guess most would be normal with maybe a few albino ones

 

[sylvia]

ChestnutMorray55 - are you asking whether anyone's ever seen the fry of an albino oscar crossed with a black oscar? I've never seen a black oscar myself but that's what they would look like. The way genetics work, the fry would either look albino or they would look black - not a mixture of the two (ie: not black with white markings or an in-between grey). In most animals (so I'm assuming in oscars as well) black would be dominant over the albino trait - so the offspring would all be black (assuming the black parent doesn't also carry the albino trait in which case you'd have a 1:1 ratio approx. of black and albino fry).

Albino, just like any other color morph, is a mutation of the wild color. It does, indeed, pass on to offspring. However, to get albino fry, you either need 2 albino parents or one albino parent and one parent that carries albino (or 2 parents that each carry albino).

 

[Lynden]

The Albino gene is indeed a reccesive one that occasionally springs up. I also have a 10 gallon tank with loads of home-bred guppies, and recently I began to see white or pink ones show up. In the distant past I had similar mustard guppies, but the only one to ever contact my original now-deceased store bought ancestral batch was female. To make an albino strain a pure strain, the albino colouration gene must be the only colouration gene. In other words, what you say is completely believable. Thanks

 

[PHR0STEE]

I think it is possible to mix an oscar with another fish... Well im a noob but I think... at my local petshop there was a "Mixed Oscar" for about 3 dollars... ($2.95 USD)

 

[Synirr]

I think it is possible to mix an oscar with another fish... Well im a noob but I think... at my local petshop there was a "Mixed Oscar" for about 3 dollars... ($2.95 USD)

Also known as a common oscar because of the mixed colours, or at least that's the only context I've ever seen a "mixed oscar" in.

 

[Lynden]

I firmly believe that hybridization with an oscar and another fish is completely possible. We just have not found the correct way to do it yet. Some people think i am a weirdo because of my unusual views of genetics............

Synirr is correct about the "mixed oscar" thing, there are many, many different strains of oscar, and the aldult common oscar is green, red, black, and brown.

 

[Synirr]

Some people think i am a weirdo because of my unusual views of genetics............

I think that if you were to do a little more study on the way genes function you might understand why that is

 

[Lynden]

No, its usually because they dont understand it. I have studied and i form my own theories, that only the smartest of people understand. And you know what? The smart ones agree with me.


Christ Synirr, you just dont like me very much, do you? Well, if thats what blows your skirt up, then be my guest. I like to get an insult here and there, it makes life more interesting.