Amelanistic C.stewarti & C.stewarti 'piebald'

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as above i have come across three of these. been told they are "very very rare"
could i have some opinions of these fish's rarity and sort of price they would expect to fetch!
thanks
David
 
yes, a pure white variant, not albino as has not got red eyes, 2 of these and one which is all white with normal stuartii colouring down the back. All from the same batch so all supposidly a variant of the same species. Been offered them at the same price of your average stuartii. (£35 each)
What do you think? Was told they are a very very rare variation.
Cheers
David
 
admittedly I didn't realise that a 'white' form of channa was available but after a quick search I have found that C.Striata and C.Stewartii are the most commonly seen white variation but as you say even these are very rare. I'd say that provided they are Stewartii and not Striata then I would personally get them.

Couldn't find a pic of a definitive stewarii but here are some supposed striata

possible white striata
another striata
 
If its pure white with black eyes I'd have said more Leucustic than Amelanistic. Generally Amelanistic would have pink eyes as a more commonly known Albino.
 
the description of the fish (the title) is cut and pasted from the email from andy at bas. I emailed him asking him what they was as the answer i got off the bloke at bas was "i dont no" indeed the title would suggest albino, as to my knowledge, although very often are black eyed white varients of fish are sold and described as albino, a true albino is completely colorless with pink/red eyes. These fish did not have pink eyes, but black, normal color. With a full white, sometimes described as 'platinum' coloured body, but the third being all white with the top half, at the base of the dorsal fin being being an exact replication of a c.stuartii. One explaination may be the fish's parents comprised of one white stuartii and one normal stuartii giving some normal offspring, some pure white and some in between. Whatever the case i have spent all week trying to get information, find pictures with no luck, no information to my knowledge is available on any channa replicating these i have come across. It would lead me to believe that whatever variant of stewartii they are, they are quite rare.

Also davo86 i just looked at the links you posted made me remember i forgot to mention, striata and stuartii have different head shapes, the striatas being more elongated and the stuartii's being more like your average dwarf channa i.e. Looks a similar shape and size to the bleheri, assam and ornatipinnis i have. Which would be more in character of stuartii. I would say im 95% sure its not striata. I think im going to pick them up next saturday. I will take pictures then, if they ended up growing large then i have an 8x3x2 on the way so no problem. Oh yeah do you think £750 is too much to pay for the new 8x3x2 in 10mm glass or about right?
Cheers
David
 
£750 for a 8x3x2 sounds like a very good deal indeed, ND for example charge £800 for a 8x2x2
 
thats not too bad then! In the process of building the stand from breeze blocks!
Would you agree, from the description iv given that the fish arent striata? If they were indeed a rare variant of stuartii would or should they be pretty pricey? Although normal stuartii are reasonably cheap.
Cheers
David
 
aah you mean just the glass tank? the price i quoted from ND is for 8x2x2 tank in 10mm with hood and cabinet,

As you say stewarii usually go for around £35 so i'm not sure why they would be selling a much rarer form at the same price? Personally i would still take a chance on them as even if they didn't turn out to be what you wanted i'm sure you would have no trouble rehoming them due to their rarety
 
if they did get large i would home them in the 8 foot. Once i have them i wil get some pics on. Then you and others can make your own mind up on what they are! Will be next saturday!
Thanks
David
 
yes that tank doe's sound like a true bargain, looking forward to seeing it up and running mate
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had an email from bas this morning, a reply from my questioning of the sp. they said that they definately are not striata or micropeltes. 1 reason being they were caught in a different area where the striata and micros are not preasant. All sounds good and narrows down the search on what they could be! I will post the email later on when im home as i cant copy and paste from my phone!

David
 
This is the email i recieved and the email i sent confirming the three white channas were not striata or micropeltes.
is there any other sp. they could be or is it now most likely to be a varient of the stuarti?
thanks
David

Hello David,

Yes the white Channas are still here...but somebody was umming & ahrring over them yesterday.

Yes we can hold them until Saturday (assuming nothing happens to them health wise)

Definately not striata or micropeltese....wrong location for starters.

Regards

B.A.S. Ltd

----- Original Message -----
From: David Rogerson
To: fish@bas.co.uk
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:12 AM
Subject: channa

hi just wondering if the white channa are still there? If so i will definately be visiting on saturday and would appreciate it if you can hold them. I know on the email you sent you arent entirely sure what they are but you thought they may be a variant of of c.stuarti, i just need to check they arent striata or micropeltes, when i looked at them i dont think they looked like they was. Just need to make sure.
Thanks
David
 

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