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Hi friends, any advice on my Blue Gourami?
At one stage i had 2 blue Gouramis but sadly i had to give 1 one of them away as it was getting bullied my the other one. I have had the one on his own for about 4 months now and i notice that all he does is attack my other fish. It seems to enjoy attacking my Tiger barbs and it even challenges my silver shark who is about the same size! It does leave my smaller fish alone to an extent but i'm worried that it might start attacking them. Any advice, i'd love to hear it.

Many thanks, GARETH -_-
 
I dont know about blue gouramis but we got an opeline gourami about 6 months ago and from the minute he went into the tank he started 'rag dolling' all our fish, large and small.......we gave him 3 days to settle in but he was no better and we had to rehome him.

I dont know if they are all aggressive but I have had a snake skin gourami in a tasnk at work with guppies, mollies and a silver shark (about 3") and he doesnt bother them atall.

I know this doesnt really answer your question but I dont know if a blue gourami and an opeline gourami are the same thing, he was kind of blue marble colour....very stunning, especially under a blue moon light but too aggressive. Im sure others will have more experience with gourami's as Ive only ever had that one personally and tended to stay away from them but maybe the one I had just had issues....Id be interested to see if they arent that bad because he looked great.
 
The blue and opaline gourami are just different color morphs of the same species - trichogaster trichopterus - collectively known as three-spot gouramies. Males can be extremely aggressive and these are, IMO, the most aggressive of the commonly available gouramies.

Snakeskin gouramies are related but grow considerably larger and are, by comparison, more peaceful.

Anyway, the first thing I must ask is what size tank you have. Not only to determine whether this is the root of your problems, but also because you mentioned a silver shark - which should be kept in groups of 3 minnimum in AT LEAST a 125 gallon tank. Over-crowding or over-stocking will invariably lead to problems in some form or another.

Having said that. the main problem with your fish is probably that, firstly it's a male, and, secondly, he doesn't have anything else to occupy himself with besides his tankmates and he feels his territory is being challenged constantly. You can do several things to improve the situation - first of all you should remove anything nippy from the tank - the tiger barbs for example - as these fish are likely to be constantly tresspassing upon HIS part of the tank and causing him to react aggressively. Then you should add lots of floating plants and tall rooted plants (make sure he still has access to the water's surface or he may drown), as well as caves and ornaments to break up all the fish's lines of sight and give the gourami an area in the tank he can claim as his undisputed territory. If it is an option, get a bigger tank - the fact that he's acting aggressively suggest the one he is currently in is not big enough and then, if the new environment is suitable, you can add 3-4 females (same size or larger than him) to distract him and occupy his time.

I know a lot of the above. particularly adding females and getting a larger tank, are probably not options you can consider. If you can't solve the problem otherwise (please, BTW, tell me what size tank you have at present), you could always consider buying him his own tank - 20 gallons would be just about right.

Also, I have been reffering to 'him' as a male, is 'he' actualy male?

Most three-spot do not pose a serious threat to smaller peaceful fish as they tend to avoid the gouramies and learn to stay away from their territory. Still, if he feels threatened or over-crowded, he may well attack smaller fish.

One last thing, if you ever again have a problem with 2 gouramies attacking each other, re-home the more aggressive one - not the less aggressive one.
 
I'd just say thanks for the advice.
Funny you should mention about a bigger tank. I was thinking about getting a larger tank. I'm not sure about the water capacity in my tank, but hear are the measurements of it. L=60cm, W=29cm and the Depth is approx 28cm. If you could tell me the water capacity in Liters or Gallons then i would be very grateful. As for my silver shark, he will have to be rehomed in a larger tank with others like itself as it's not right to keep it in my tank as it is not large enough. I'm not sure if my Gourami is male or female but all o know is that i have to do something about this rascal! Once again, thanks for the advice, i appreciate it.
GARETH :D

1 Silver shark
1 Blue gaurami
3 Tiger barbs
10 neons
5 Zebra danios
2 sucking loaches
 
That sounds like it's about 20 gallons (though I'm not the best with conversions and things :P), which is a good size for most of your fish but not good for the shark (as you've acknowledged) or for the sucking loaches - which you may or may not be surprised to hear about.

Unfortunately, this fish, often called the 'chinese algae eater' though it's not chinese and doesn't eat algae after a certain age, also isn't a loach. It's actualy more closely related to the barb-like sharks (red-tailed, rainbow/red-finned, flying foxes etc) and becomes rather aggressive as it matures. This fish, surprisingly for many, actualy reaches 10" - with larger sizes not being unheard-of in the wild. At around 4-6", they start showing the first signs of aggression - usualy towards others of their own kind or similar species. Then they begin attacking other fish - they have been known to trade algae-eating for slime-coat sucking at this point and flat-bodied fish like gouramies are especialy prone to this. They may also go for the eyes of their tankmates - sucking them out - not a nice thought and, as they get larger, will also eat anything that fits in their mouths - your neons won't survive and your danios could become targets as well. Unfortunately, these fish are very often sold in LFSs and promoted as being great algae eaters and good community fish - which they can be, until they reach that certain stage. So anyway, I don't mean to scare you, but anyone who's kept this species for long enough will tell you about them. These two you realy need to get rid of - both for their tankmates' sake, and their own (as they simply get too big and would also kill each other eventualy).

Once the sucking loaches and silver shark are re-homed, the remainder of your fish are alright for the tank but you are slightly over-stocked for your tank's volume so don't add anything else and deffinately make sure you are keeping up with maintainance and water changes.

If you are prepaired to do so, it may be a good idea to also re-home the tiger barbs while you are at it. I think my suspicion that they are an issue with the gourami is correct as 3 isn't realy a large enough school for them. The thing with tiger barbs is that they are well-known fin nippers and will bully and harass everything they can. As such, they are not good tankmates for slow-moving or long-finned fish - gouramies being both of these things (though they can move lightning fast if they realy want to). To avoid problems, it's reccomended to keep 7 or more - not something you can do in your tank as you don't have the space for all these fish - the reason being that, with more barbs, they occupy themselves with each other and don't bother their other tankmates. Furthermore, by keeping them in a group, their hierarchy is such that each fish has another tiger barb beneath it to bully and no single fish is constantly being harassed. You can probably see from your three that one of them is picked on more than the other two or that a single one dominates the other two. In a small group like yours, this can lead to some serious stress-related diseases (which is actualy most fish diseases :P) while, in a bigger group, the aggression is devided and no single fish suffers.

If someone comes along and proves me wrong on the tank size - if it's larger that is - perhaps you could just add some more, 3-4, tigers as that would also solve the problem - but not in a 20 gallon. Or, like you mentioned, you could get a bigger tank ;).

Oh BTW, male three-spot gouramies have a longer, more pointed dorsal fin, look more streamlined and, as this is a blue specificaly, tend to have bright orange-red pelvic/ventral fins (the feelers). Females have an obviously shorter (half the length), rounded dorsal fin and look deeper-bodied and, when viewed from above, quite distinctly wider. A lot of the differences may eb difficult without practice or other fish to compare to, so, here's a link with some lovely pictures (several variants pictured but they are all the same species and, exluding the feeler color, can be sexed in the same way): http://www.aqualandpetsplus.com/Gouramis,%...ichogasters.htm

Sorry about the long post BTW :P I find I have a tendency to ramble in detail ;)
 

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