Advice Needed Please About Fin Rott

[nikkijack]

one of my mollies have been acting odd...well seems odd to me but as i know little about them it would seem odd...its been staying in 1 particular part of the tank...and just flapping frantically...its seemed less interested in the other mollie it keeps trying to attack also...anyways the main problem i got is it seems to be losing its scales...looks like its got white bits over it, around eyes and back...it has no rotting fins, 1 mistake i have made i think is overfeeding the fish i have, as there poop is rather long, so i have cut this down, i don't wanna go to a shop to be fobbed off with diff things to try like i did when i kept goldfish that got fin rott.....any ideas anyone...i don't have another tank to quarenteen this fish...any advice would be most gratefull once again

many thanks
nikki xx

 

[nikkijack]

i've got up this morning and its looking like fin rott...as its now on the finns...as for the other fish there is 1 other which is the other mollie that has 1 white spot on his finn...can anyone reccomend a treatment..hubby is saying get it out tank which means theres only 1 place for it to go coz he says other fish will get it like it did with our goldfish...but i wanna give it a chance

 

[TammyLiz]

First, do some tests and post them. Test for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and pH and post that here. Also post the size of your tank and what kinds and numbers of fish you have in it. These factors affect your options.

Do you add salt to the tank for the mollies? They are prone to infection if you don't. But some fish can't handle the salt...so make sure you find out if they can before adding it.

As far as just flushing the fish, it is unlikely that will solve all of your problems as simple as that. Did the spot you saw on the fin today look like a grain of salt? Do the "white bits" on the head and back look fuzzy, or grainy, or what? You'll want to figure out what it is you're dealing with before making a decision on what to do about it.

 

[nikkijack]

i didn't salt it..the mollies i have had about 3 months, along with to neons tetra's and 2 siamese fighting fish (female) i have a 15 gallon tank, i can't test water as i have to take it to the shop and its miles away and our car is off the rd at mo...its mostly affecting his face and bosy but now spread to fins...on body it looks like hazey salt and i can deffo see that the fin is rotting now as there is a little strigy bit where its coming away, its only the bottom affected at mo(fin)

i have been and got some stuff to treat fungus and fin rott...i'm 99% certain i've overfed which i know can cause problems...soon as i can test the water i will...this stuff i have put takes 7 days...but the thing is do i take out my filter for my pump??

i can't water change till this treatment has run its course

many thanks
nikki

 

[TammyLiz]

So...it does't look like grains of salt? It looks more slimy or fuzzy? What is the active ingredient for the medication you have?

If you think you were overfeeding a water change is really necessary. Is the med you have something that you just add once, or do you add every day? If you add it every day it would be a good idea to do a water change just before you add the medication next time.

Don't take the filter out of your pump. You could end up with an ammonia spike. If part of it has something in it that looks like black gravel then that is carbon and you should take that out. Otherwise, leave all your filter media in. It is important not to ever take out all of the filter media at once.

 

[nikkijack]

thankyou for that

its more slimey especialy round the fins now...around the eyes they deffo looking white...and its going all over the bosy...i only have to add the stuff once..i did a water change b4 i added it and also cleaned the gravel and added a little cycle(b4 i added the treatment)

i just hope this is what the fish has as i don't wanna lose all the fish.. its taken me a long time to be confident about keeping tropical..i'm gonna feed em every 3 days for now...i also read adding live food instead of flaked may prevent anything like this happening...but i dunno if thats just a gimmick to buy diff food!!

nikki

 

[TammyLiz]

Here is a list of fish diseases. Maybe if you read through it might help you figure out exactly which one it is your molly has:
http/fish.mongabay.com/diseases.htm

If you find something that sounds like it might be it, you can then do a google search on the name of the disease to try to find more information on it. There is a lot of information out there on the web to help you figure out what it is.

You might also want to PM Wilder, a member on this forum who gives a lot of advice on fish diseases, and direct her to this thread to see what she thinks.

 

[WILDER]

Cloudy eye is a symtom of a desease not a desease in its self.
finrot can be a secondary infection.
Is the fish flicking and rubbing as it sounds like you might have a parasite.
Does the area look like a white dusting on the fish.
Does the white spot on the fish have a red centre or a circling of red around the edges.
Just want to check that the patches on the fish don't look fluffy or bleached out.

 

[WILDER]

Read this need to rule it out.
http/www.aquatic-hobbyist.com/profiles/d...columnaris.html

 

[nikkijack]

thankyou for your time and replies


ok, the eyes have the same as the body, little white specs, almost salt grain looking but a little hazy....the fin on the tips are white and also have white spots, have noticed this mornig that the other mollie has 1 white spot on fin but no decay on it as of yet..and also none of these other spots on body....grrrr this is confusing!! theres so many things it could be..

wilder i checked that thread u sent....so far the eyes only have this white grain type...its as bad as the the link u sent me...he has no red spots anywhere that i can see


many thanks
nikki xx

 

[TammyLiz]

I've never seen it but I've read that ich can cause grey slimy patches. I wonder if the grains are ich and the slime is from that, maybe a sloughing of the slime coat or something. Do you know anything about that Wilder?

Do you have a way to take pictures and post them, nikki?

 

[nikkijack]

she seems to have picked up a bit better today...most of these white grains are gone now, just the whiteness to her fins i'm now concerened about my siamese fighters..they seem to want to be getting stuck in places to rest, eg, the pumps vent..the suction pads to the pump, or between some stones...they are far less active than usual, and only since i put this stuff in....is this normal behavior for them??

i'll try and get a pic up when other half comes back as i have to upload them on his comp and get him to network them over


many thanks again

 

[WILDER]

Sounds like whitespot which a fish can get on it eyes as well, yes it can cause a slime appearance, get treating fast already left to long.
Turn temp up to 30, increase aeration as the med and high temp will reduce 02 in the water.
Remove black carbon if you use it.
Also check the instructions on the whitespot med that you can use full dose with the fish you have.
I would also add some pimafix which you can use with a parasite med.