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Hi, I took pleasure in receiving a 5ft 4" 500litre/100g holding tank in a mahogany cabinet last year, it was my mum-in-laws, but the tank cracked and after she'd been through the experience of all that water gushing onto her living room floor once she wasn't prepared for it to happen again! hence I got a free tank out of it with all the gubbins i needed to set it up for tropical!

in fact the insurance company paid some dumb dude to come install it, he'd scratched the cabinet right up and i had to threaten him with court action to pay the bill that i'd paid for a french polisher to come and deal with the damage!

that's not the only mistake dumb dude made, he put far too much sand in the bottom, and not set the pipes up for my filters correctly, so 10 months later, white spot ravaged through my tank and took out some lovely occupants, such as a cray that i'd watch grow from tiny, my lovely fire eel, my funny clown loach adults and a few others, i lost my temper with the tank last thursday, and tore all the sand out of the tank, did a major water change (broke a filter, but we won't go there! i have the bits to repair it today! - just as well we have 2!) tank now has an inch of large pebbley gravel, and 2 massive pieces of bogwood, just waiting for the medication to disipate and after my holiday next week i'll put some more rock caves in there and add some floating plants before adding any more fish/eels/cray. (i'd previously had a 4ft tank some 12 years ago, also with a cray, tyretrack eel and in that one i had a peacock eel too)

i'm at a loss as to what to stock the tank with, suggestions would be warmly welcomed! i currently have a few mollies, swordtails, a tyre track eel, a couple of (dwarf) plecs and a few tetras etc - plenty of space to fill up! i was toying with the idea of 8 tiger barbs as I loved watching those dudes chasing each other about, as a group of 8 they didn't seem to go after anything else in the tank, but i'm getting conflicting info from both LFS that i go to, one says yeah go for it, and the other says no way, species only tank. what does everyone else think? suggestions for another shoal of something stunning would be appreciated too, i know what i *don't* like, i'm just having trouble going yes! i really like that!

sorry didn't mean to bore everyone to tears.. lol
 
hello and welcome to the forum, what a story!

with tiger barbs the bigger groups of them are generally fine in community tanks, as you've plenty of room get 10 or maybe even 12 and you should be ok.

i'd go for a few bigger fish (not massive just nto tetra sized) like gourami's, rams, kribs, apistogramma etc

then get a few really nice big shoals of tetras, like 20/30 of each species. there's something about a huge group of small colourful fish that looks really impressive :good:
 
thank you for your reply! glad you didn't nod off halfway through my story ;)

i really like the activity of the tiger barbs, i already have 2 left of the original shoal of 8, i'd be tempted to get another shoal of 8, hubs doesn't want any more than 8 of anything, would rather have a variety of fish in small groups, i really like mollies, so i thought another 2-3 pairs of various colours of them, some female swordtails to stop my 2 boys courting with each other (they really are courting, not fighting!) gouramis are too slow to have in with a cray, we found out the hard way :(

i saw a 12ish shoal of harlequin rasbora at the LFS which looked stunning as they're like sheep! when one turns and swims the other way, the rest do too! i do wonder if they'd do that in a large tank tho? or if they'll scatter? we've seen that with the other tetras we've had in there :/ i'm put off tetras atm, as that was the only fish that visibly had white spot in our tank, even though i know it was just one of those things, i wouldn't have wanted stangant sand where i was living either! thankfully that's all in the past now, i've learned some hard lessons and i'm much more confident that i can maintain a healthy tank now :)

i'll do some research on rams, kribs and apistogrammas, thank you for the suggestion, i'm looking for fish that get no bigger than an adult molly but not too small that the eels will eat them on a regular basis, whatever goes in there needs to be fast too, the last cray i had had expensive taste!

the cray and eels are absolute definates, we're going to start looking at what eel will go nicely with my tyre track eel, considering a fire eel again, although hubs really likes reedfish but knows we'd have to have several of those which would necessitate more caves than we have planned atm hmm decisions decisions!!

ty for ur warm welcomes quo and kew, i've been here a few days now, and have learned a lot by browsing about what went wrong in my tank and gained a lot of knowledge in how to set up and maintain a healthy tank :) just as i was ready to throw in the towel after first my cray then my fire eel dying i've got my groove back now, onwards and upwards!!
 
Sounds like a great tank.Just wondering but how deep was the sand?My sand went stale (well black) when it was 2 inches deep and had not been touched for about 6 months (was underneath a peice of bogwood).I have herd horror storys of sand being bad and msot having no trouble atall.I still use it though!
 
Sounds like a great tank.Just wondering but how deep was the sand?My sand went stale (well black) when it was 2 inches deep and had not been touched for about 6 months (was underneath a peice of bogwood).I have herd horror storys of sand being bad and msot having no trouble atall.I still use it though!

it was 2-3 inches, i thought i'd moved it around enough, and i had a crayfish in there that regularly bulldozed it about until she saw glass! for some reason the front corner was a place for all the fishy crap to go, and hunt as much as we did we couldn't find a sand cleaner, conflicting advice from the LFS didn't help - one said stir it up regularly, the other said leave well alone :rolleyes: hence i now take it all on board then i'll come here and browse for a general opinion of a few others :)

am sooo much happier with about an inch of river pebble substrate, we cleaned half of it last night, and we were stunned at how much crap was hoovering up through the gravel cleaner with just a dozen fish in there! just seeing that last night made us realise just how messy fish are! and sand was just not the substrate for us!

the water is still slightly yellow tho, have no idea why :( we set up the second filter last night, and put a series of different sized sponges in there to try help filter the water and keep it polished, only decor in the tank atm is 2 massive pieces of bogwood, which surely should have stopped leaching after 10 months?!

we set up the airpump with a curtain of bubbles last night too, set it under the largest bogwood so that now has large bubbles going through it, i spotted my eel in there this morning sat in one of the caves in the wood bobbing about in the bubbles!

i did have an unexplained death of a cherry barb last night tho, i'm hoping my tank is back to full health, might have to test the water after all the changes that have happened tbh

i'll get piccies up when we've finished messing about with the decor! hehe looking for some *large* pieces of rock with lots of holes in :)


thank you Ilya and Pretty, i hope it goes better this time too! :)
 
sorry to hear about all your trouble

IMO Tiger Barbs look brilliant in a large shoal - you could have about 15... they are also very hardy.
 

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