4 Dead In Less Than 12 Hours

[5teady_2012]

Last night i did a waterchange and i moved all fish out of the tank excpet the female bettas, i wanted them just to have thier own tank..

So anyways, i did a waterchange, about one hour after fed them so frozen food... so did nothing out of the ordinary..

Woke up this morning to find 4 dead...

Checked stats, all fine..
heater checked, fine

The fish had like white stuff near thier mouth (not actually round it) and near thier dorsal fin, they had a faded like white patch if that makes sense..
All thier fins still look fine so they cant of battered each other about.. only 2 survivors, 1 male (whos in a 6"x 8" x 8" net) and a 1 female..

Anyone any ideas to whats happened?

Thanks

Wayne

 

[WILDER]

Sadly they died of columnaris.
Causes of columnaris are bad water quality, over stocking, temp being unstable, stress.
When you moved the fish did the temp match.

 

[5teady_2012]

Sadly they died of columnaris.
Causes of columnaris are bad water quality, over stocking, temp being unstable, stress.
When you moved the fish did the temp match.

HI

I moved all the fish out of the tank, apart from the bettas, i took 6 guppies out and put them in a diffrent tank

The tank was not overstocked, it only had 12 fish in it and 3 small bristlenose plecs, its a 75 litre tank..

The bettas are the ones that died and have been in there since i got them, they cant have been stressed as they was all fine last night..

They aint in bad water conditions cos the stats are fine..

The temp is very stable.

 

[WILDER]

I knew your tank stats were probably fine and stocking was, just saying what causes columnaris.
The stuff near the mouth was if fluffy looking.
Columarnis has many disguises even bleached out patches on fish can be columnaris.

 

[5teady_2012]

I hve highlighted the symptons below...

I think your right 100%, what do i treat this with please..

Symptoms:
White spots on mouth, edges of scales, and fins

'Saddleback' lesion near the dorsal fin

Rapid gilling in cases where gills are infected


What could of caused this wilder? if all my stats are good?

Thanks

 

[5teady_2012]

Bump...

 

[WILDER]

So the fish had white spot on the mouth, you say fins and scales are they white spots aswell.
The gills are affected do they have excess mucas on them like sticky.

Saddleback columnaris goes along the back and down the sides of the fish to from a saddle shape, is it fluffy looking.
Look under columnaris.
http/www.fish-disease.net/diseases.htm

 

[5teady_2012]

So the fish had white spot on the mouth, you say fins and scales are they white spots aswell.
The gills are affected do they have excess mucas on them like sticky.

Saddleback columnaris goes along the back and down the sides of the fish to from a saddle shape, is it fluffy looking.

I will go do a pic or video so you can see them better....

ps. just noticed one of them as a little yellow thing hanging from its gil (near the top)..

 

[WILDER]

When you say yellow thing a strand of cotton or does it look like a parasite.

 

[5teady_2012]

This shows exactl whats up with them, hope you can see it ok...

click here to watch video

 

[WILDER]

Can't make out what that yellow thing is never seen anthing like it.
Are you convinced its not a parasite as it dosn't look like one.

The white spots are to big for whitespot, any red tinging to them.

How many fish and which type are in the tank as thinking of salt.

The fish with the yellow strand thing salt bath now.
http/freshaquarium.about.com/cs/treatmen...altiinfresh.htm

 

[5teady_2012]

Can't make out what that yellow thing is never seen anthing like it.
Are you convinced its not a parasite as it dosn't look like one.

The white spots are to big for whitespot, any red tinging to them.

How many fish and which type are in the tank as thinking of salt.

The fish with the yellow strand thing salt bath now.
<a href="http/freshaquarium.about.com/cs/treatmen...altiinfresh.htm" target="_blank">http/freshaquarium.about.com/cs/treatmen...altiinfresh.htm</a>

All that remains in the tank now is 1 feamle betta, 1 male in a breeding net, and 3 plecs (bristlnose)

The female look on her last legs as well now.



ps, the yellow thing seemed to be wringgling like a worm

 

[WILDER]

Not good then.
You can remove some parasites with tweezers but not sure what type of parasite it is.
I thought at first it looked like a plant leaf.

Try the salt bath to see if it removes the parasite.

 

[5teady_2012]

Not good then.
You can remove some parasites with tweezers but not sure what type of parasite it is.
I thought at first it looked like a plant leaf.

Try the salt bath to see if it removes the parasite.

The fish is dead now, only the plecs left and the male in breeding net

 

[Saedcantas]

It's still well worth removing the green/yellow thing to have a proper look at it and perhaps post better pics now it isnt attached to a fish

Sorry for your losses matey
Lotte*