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i thought a 3ft tank was 29gallons but found out its 22.50 is that right?

for pure plant growing in a tank only is it best to therefore get a 55watt twin ligh unit (4.8wpg) or twin 40watt? (3.5wpg)

can someone confirm that this gallon size is correct as well..

18x12x12 9.4g

24x15x12 15.6g

36x15x12 22.5

48x18x12 37.5g

60x24x18 93.75g

72x24x24 150g
 
FISH TANK SIZE CHART

looks like it is closest to a 30 gallon to me, unless it is custom built or your measruements are off....

EDIT: stupid me, didn't see that you said TWIN 55w/40w

with the twin 55 you would have 3.7 wpg
with the twin 40 you would have 2.7 wpg

i think either would work great, it is up to you, but 3.7 wpg couldn't hurt if you have the money ;) ....

if it really is a 22.5 gallon i would def go for the twin 40's....5 wpg is not usually a good number to reach IMO...you should be able to get anything to thrive with 4 wpg
 
please can you type out the link for that chart place as my comp crashes when i click on it.

i have a chart by 'peak aquatics' that came with one of my tanks it says that chart what i quoted.

i have a 36x15x12 and i also have a 36x18x15.

its really confusing this gallons thing i always see different places saying different things! sometimes i think of just getting a litre bottle and filling a tank up to see what it really is!

so is the 36x15x12 DEFO 30gallons? not 22.5?
 
oh that chart has worked for me now!

is it american gallons?

so is it that it shud be 3-4watts per US gallon? so my tank is possibly 22.5 UK gallons and 30 US gallons?
 
30 US gallons is actually more like 25 UK gallons :)
 
ok great thanks! :)

someone told me that when i plant them - because im starting it to sell them - i was wanting to sort of section them off with one type all mixed together then another type etc but they said its best to have them all randomly placed because they need other plants to mix together to grow roots or something is that true? because it would be easier to have them sectioned off in one type each section i think!

as the tanks arent for show and dont need to look attractive do i still have to stick to the background,forground midground placement?

with growing floating plants is it best to have a whole new tank for that or is it okay growing it in same tank where im growing loads of ground plants?

also,

if you see this c02 thing at this site
http://www.aquatics-warehouse.co.uk/acatal...SATION_169.html

i know there will be some difference but what is the difference between this one at 14.99 and one that ive seen costing £225.

is there a major quality difference of the outcome of the plants which makes it worth buying the one for £225? if the one for 14.99 means that more labour work is needed or something then id just rather do that for now that isnt a problem
 
um, no offense but you will never make any money off growing plants on such a small scale...by the time you pay for lighting, co2, fertilizers, shipping, time, etc you will be losing money...a lot of it IMO....it is not worth all of the time or effort to do it unless you have HUGE tanks with suspended lighting, etc IMO...you will never be able to keep up with the huge companies that do this

and obviously there is a major difference between the co2 system that cost 15 and the one that costs 225 :rolleyes: ...why don't you do a little research for yourself and see how much work it actually is before you depend on us for instant answers....you really don't know what you're getting yourself into...plants don't grow overnight (well they do, but you know what i mean)

not tryin to sound nasty but i can tell you haven't even researched this yet and all you see is $$$ that isn't relaly there
 
you gotta start somewhere right?

i started off with a 24x12 tank then started breeding axolotls which allowed me to upgrade to a 48x18 with a £100 filter and then buy a further 4 tanks all with good filters to work at breeding other animals.

i will start off with 2x3ft tanks with one hood and light unit which will be in different rooms. one tank will be in the dark when it is day and the other will have the light on and i will swop them over at night/day so that for the mean time saves on a light unit (although compact twin 55watts are only £25 plus extra for bulbs.

im gonna get 2 co2 things for up to 20 gallons. and also do DIY ones everyday.

im going to but either a variety of different plants or some direct import ones and then when they grow tall cut them then re plant them then when they grow as well as the old ones i will cut them and sell them. it may take a while to get started but whenever i see a good deal on a big tank (normally on ebay) i will get it.

hardly anyone starts at the top and im happy to work for it.

my main concern is over fying the plants because of gallon size of aquariums. but i think i have it sorted now.
 
how do you plan on swapping the tanks every day and night? full they will each weight around 300 pounds or more..

where can you get twin 55watt for 25 (approx 45 USD)? is it a retrofit kit? i can't seem to find anything much less than $100 ..

what exactly do you mean you will be doing a DIY co2 thing everyday? DIY co2 mixtures usually last at least a week...

and from the sounds of it you plan on growing mostly stem plants? keep in mind then when you trim a stem plant you usually discard the bottom part of the stem (unless it has other shoots growing out), and keep the top part, or else it looks really strange (with no leaves at the top, ya know what i mean)?

you might want to consider dedicating an entire tank to something such as "riccia" that is not as common, grows fast under high lighting, and is relatively expensive VS. simple stem plants, which can be gotten anywhere for a couple bucks....i would recommend talking to someone that does this on a large scale so you can have a good starting point, otherwise i think you may be upset with the results in the long run...
 
i just read properly about co2 diy and so thats even better i found out it only needs changin every 2-3 weeks!

when i take cuttings ill let the rest of the plant grow back.

i know theres loads i still need to learn and i will. im happy to learn from my mistakes though. and i have now learnt about buying tanks second hand to save money.

i am going to get an interpet twin 55watt light unit. i found a couple of places online selling brand new for £25. otherwise my LFS's sell them for £50 each.
 
when i saw swopping them i mean swopping the lids.

so when it is night time one tank thinks it is day time with the light and the other tank thinks its night time (which it would be)

if i find this not to work then i will just get another light.
 
maos said:
when i saw swopping them i mean swopping the lids.

so when it is night time one tank thinks it is day time with the light and the other tank thinks its night time (which it would be)

if i find this not to work then i will just get another light.
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lol, i'm so stupid - didn't think of switching the light out :blink:

well, good luck, and i suggest you go w/ an expensive/fairly rare plant such as riccia right from the beginning as there is a large demand for them
 
thanks for the info.

i think i will have one tank just for riccia then. i might see about getting a tank thats a lot shallower than standard then for it.

is it true that mixing different species of plants (having them randomly spread out) is better for them than having them sectioned off per species?
 
maos said:
thanks for the info.

i think i will have one tank just for riccia then. i might see about getting a tank thats a lot shallower than standard then for it.

is it true that mixing different species of plants (having them randomly spread out) is better for them than having them sectioned off per species?
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a 20 long would probably be a good size for riccia....i think 12" height is pretty much the minimum you will find in most large tanks unless custom made

i'm not sure about the mixing of different plants being better - maybe due to how they obtain nutrients - for example, if you have a bunch of heavily root feeding plants with very large root systems, they may tend to smother eachother....just a guess though
 
i recently found a place that does really cheap tanks as hes a glass person and makes them as extra money. and it might be worth getting say then a 24inch by maybe 6 inches high from him as hell only charge about £8.

but actually i have a spare 24inch tank so might as well use that. its just the lighting for it. its £20 for a 30w twin.

ill see how it goes. i might put a divider in the tank to stop the riccia drifting (stopping other plants at the bottom getting light)

thanks again :)

jen
 
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