25 Gallon *fancy Feeder Fish?*

[andywg]

to my knowledge the law covered feeding of live vertibrates ei no feeding of live mice to snakes but ok to feed crickets to lizards.

The law (in the Animal Welfare Act 2006) merely states there should be no unnecessary suffering. A quick death where a fish is consumed whole in one bite is not likely to be considered unnecessary. Putting a large oscar in with RBP and waiting for it to be slowly ripped apart would be.

Particular debate occurred in the Houses of Parliament as the Act (then a Bill) passed through parliament regarding the feeding of live vertebrates to predators (and can be read online via Hansard). It was decided that an outright ban would not be best as there are times when the feeding of live foods is necessary to keep a fish alive. After all, which is worse, letting the predator slowly die from starvation, or letting the feeder fish die swiftly from a predator?

Either way its cruelty and unnecessary surrering so you would have to be pretty sick to choose to do it when there are other alternatives.

So cruel? You do know that pretty much all flake and prepared foods have fish in them, yes? And you realise how most fish caught commercially tend not to be culled in the most humane ways?

And what about when there aren't alternatives?

 

[fish48]

Fancy guppies are not easy to keep or breed. The wild guppy is small, relatively colourless, and its fins are in proportion to its body. The creation of artificial colours, markings and fin shapes mean that guppy populations are so inbred they are virtually impossible to keep. If you want something hardy that will just keep on reproducing and churning out feeders, don't get into guppies.

Fancy guppies are easy to keep and breed if you start of with good quality fish
if you find they are virtually impossible to keep you must be doing something wrong.

 

[piranha_tim]

Just to make a quick point ....

Feeder fish = Setting up a nice environment for fish to breed and when over populating some are giving away and some benefit my preds. and are eaten quickly and in one mouthful (i can't feed hundreds to the preds so some will def survive a full life)

Fish food = big nets dragged catching hundreds of fish ... dragged up out of the water with no decompression (painful and fear causing) ... thrown into a fish pit in which usually break something ... and slowly suffocate ... the fish who do however have a longer out of water time get the pleasure of being ground up while still alive usually slowly. (this is what you feed your fish with)

Now lets think who is really being cruel.

I think the reality is 80% of the people who are against feeders are just the people who don't like to see death of an another animal but when the process is remove from them and it looks harmless feel it is ok.

 

[emma12321]

Tim, I'm guessing you're about 16 and just gagging for an argument, yet you haven't even bought your so called preds yet so can't state whether they will need live food or will be happy with alternatives.

Andy just loves to stir up arguments so nuff said on the subject.

Bored of this conversation now my point has been put across