1950's Fishkeeping Questions

[Butch]

I want to find some info on 1950's or when is the year the fishkeeping begins. Before the cultivated strains of aquarium were created. What species that were once popular/common or used in that year's fishkeeping? For example: the desert goby, the Japanese ricefish and the wild guppy were few species of the first tropical fishes or as I heard/read.

 

[Gazoo]

I want to find some info on 1950's or when is the year the fishkeeping begins.

I'm a little unclear with your question and your reference to the 50's. I believe the Chinese started to domesticate goldfish in the 6th century.

 

[Scotty001]

I want to find some info on 1950's or when is the year the fishkeeping begins.

I'm a little unclear with your question and your reference to the 50's. I believe the Chinese started to domesticate goldfish in the 6th century.

And the romans before that, the Very first recorded fish keeping (indoors) was back in the Roman Empire when they kept sea barbel in Marble tanks under the bed of guests, then in the year 50 they discovered how to have one side of the marble tank as glass instead, In 1369, the Chinese Emperor, Hongwu started a porcalin company to make goldfish bowls

 

[Colin_T]

As Gazoo mentioned the Chinese, I thought I might also mention the Romans who had fishponds fed by their water pipes. Also ancient indian used to hold fish in dirt ponds and wooden cages for a few days before eating them.
Paradise fish were one of the first kept back in the early 1900s.
Goldfish were kept by the Chinese hundreds of yrs ago.

You need to go to your local aquarium society and chat to all the old timers who kept fish back then. They have plenty of tails/tales (fishy pun) about fish keeping back in the day. You could also try contacting TFH and see if they have any reference material or old magazines from when they first started.
Also different countries had different starting times.

 

[Helen G]

Fishkeeping was documented as spreading to europe in the 16th century.

You & your aquarium, Dick Mills. Published by Dorling Kindersley 1986

 

[SJ2K]

I want to find some info on 1950's or when is the year the fishkeeping begins.

I'm a little unclear with your question and your reference to the 50's. I believe the Chinese started to domesticate goldfish in the 6th century.

And the romans before that, the Very first recorded fish keeping (indoors) was back in the Roman Empire when they kept sea barbel in Marble tanks under the bed of guests, then in the year 50 they discovered how to have one side of the marble tank as glass instead, In 1369, the Chinese Emperor, Hongwu started a porcalin company to make goldfish bowls

Thats new to me, i was sure glass wasnt invented untill hundreds of years after that

 

[The-Wolf]

time to read an old post of mine
http/www.fishforums.net/content/forum/13...sh-Keeping-101/

 

[Colin_T]

goldfish bowls from ancient Chinese times were ceramic bowls and you viewed the fish from above.

 

[pastabake]

A craft is born
The earliest man-made glass objects, mainly non-transparent glass beads, are thought to date back to around 3500 BC, with finds in Egypt and Eastern Mesopotamia. In the third millennium, in central Mesopotamia, the basic raw materials of glass were being used principally to produce glazes on pots and vases. The discovery may have been coincidental, with calciferous sand finding its way into an overheated kiln and combining with soda to form a coloured glaze on the ceramics. It was then, above all, Phoenician merchants and sailors who spread this new art along the coasts of the Mediterranean.


3500 BC

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The oldest fragments of glass vases (evidence of the origins of the hollow glass industry), however, date back to the 16th century BC and were found in Mesopotamia. Hollow glass production was also evolving around this time in Egypt, and there is evidence of other ancient glassmaking activities emerging independently in Mycenae (Greece), China and North Tyrol.


16th century BC

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Early hollow glass production
After 1500 BC, Egyptian craftsmen are known to have begun developing a method for producing glass pots by dipping a core mould of compacted sand into molten glass and then turning the mould so that molten glass adhered to it. While still soft, the glass-covered mould could then be rolled on a slab of stone in order to smooth or decorate it. The earliest examples of Egyptian glassware are three vases bearing the name of the Pharaoh Thoutmosis III (1504-1450 BC), who brought glassmakers to Egypt as prisoners following a successful military campaign in Asia.


1500 BC

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There is little evidence of further evolution until the 9th century BC, when glassmaking revived in Mesopotamia. Over the following 500 years, glass production centred on Alessandria, from where it is thought to have spread to Italy.


9th century BC

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The first glassmaking "manual" dates back to around 650 BC. Instructions on how to make glass are contained in tablets from the library of the Assyrian king Ashurbanipal (669-626 BC).


650 BC

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Starting to blow
A major breakthrough in glassmaking was the discovery of glassblowing some time between 27 BC and AD 14, attributed to Syrian craftsmen from the Sidon-Babylon area. The long thin metal tube used in the blowing process has changed very little since then. In the last century BC, the ancient Romans then began blowing glass inside moulds, greatly increasing the variety of shapes possible for hollow glass items.


27 BC-AD 14

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The Roman connection
The Romans also did much to spread glassmaking technology. With its conquests, trade relations, road building, and effective political and economical administration, the Roman Empire created the conditions for the flourishing of glassworks across western Europe and the Mediterranean. During the reign of the emperor Augustus, glass objects began to appear throughout Italy, in France, Germany and Switzerland. Roman glass has even been found as far afield as China, shipped there along the silk routes.

It was the Romans who began to use glass for architectural purposes, with the discovery of clear glass (through the introduction of manganese oxide) in Alexandria around AD 100. Cast glass windows, albeit with poor optical qualities, thus began to appear in the most important buildings in Rome and the most luxurious villas of Herculaneum and Pompeii.

Pretty interesting stuff. So I guess the Romans could well have made the first modern type fish tank.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

There is a pretty interesting article in Freshwater and Marine Aquarium (Volume 31 Number 5, for May 2008), by Paul Speice. This man has been in the hobby for ages, and in this article he talks about the difference in aquarium technology from the good ol' days, till' now.

 

[beany_bot]

I want to find some info on 1950's or when is the year the fishkeeping begins.

I'm a little unclear with your question and your reference to the 50's. I believe the Chinese started to domesticate goldfish in the 6th century.

And the romans before that, the Very first recorded fish keeping (indoors) was back in the Roman Empire when they kept sea barbel in Marble tanks under the bed of guests, then in the year 50 they discovered how to have one side of the marble tank as glass instead, In 1369, the Chinese Emperor, Hongwu started a porcalin company to make goldfish bowls

Thats new to me, i was sure glass wasnt invented untill hundreds of years after that

Wikipedia quote - "Glass was manufactured in open pits, ca. 3000 B.C. until the invention of the blowpipe in ca. 250 B.C."