You Can Buy Worming Tablets For

[WILDER]

Cats and dogs but not fish.
Why is this as many fish have internal parasites.
I wormed mine when flubenol was on the market but you can no longer buy the wormer.
My fish have never been so healthy since I wormed them.

 

[evilchild]

good point?

 

[WILDER]

Anybody used this wormer.
http/www.aquarist-classifieds.co.uk/php/detail62_45492.php

 

[TigerLotus]

Is wormer the same as dewormer. I know Dr.Fosters Smith sells some dewomer but Ive never used it. I was actully considering buying some but I dont know anyone who uses it.

 

[loachman]

I've heard of many people using pig dewormer on fish. You just need to get the dosing right.

 

[WILDER]

I know about the pig wormer but its hard to get hold of.

 

[fourthtimelucky]

Having lost a guppy to internal parasites I dosed my entire tank with Sterazin (manufactured by Waterlife). It is snail-safe, and says "Controls Gill and Body flukes which cause flicking, Controls Internal Worms". You dose it day one, three, six, eight and ten.

A couple of the other fish which were showing signs of the same problem made a full recovery, including one that was at the stage of lying on his side, high respiration, stringy white faeces & very swollen abdomen ( I thought he was a goner for sure) and is now totally back to normal.

Some of the fish in my tank were juveniles, one of these died but I believe this was probably unrelated to the medication as it had not eaten much since going into the tank and was very underweight & shy. The others didn't seem to suffer any ill effects. My apple snail was a bit sluggish towards the end of the ten-day period but is now back to normal. Plants & filter were unaffected.

I'm not sure whether I would feel happy using the medication as a preventative step rather than a cure - I don't know enough about how the various chemicals affect the fish. But as a remedy I was extremely pleased with the results and if the alternative was trying to figure out the correct dosage of something intended for use on pigs, I would recommend trying this instead.

Hope this helps!

 

[WILDER]

I used that waterlife med for internal parasites it never did a thing.
Not that good on gill flukes either.
Waterlife even say that one of there meds treats ntd which is false as there no cure for ntd.
False ntd yes which is saddle back columnaris.

 

[fourthtimelucky]

Was it definitely the same one? Waterlife do several different parasite meds, I know because I ended up making two separate journeys to the not-so-localFS after I got the wrong one first time round!

I emailed them to ask about which to use (because I was a bit worried about the snail situation) and this was their reply:

Sterazin is perfectly safe with mollusc, it is not safe with
shrimp, crayfish or crabs. Octozin is safe to use in aquaria containing
all invertebrate species and is the medication of choice if the fish
have an internal protozoa infection.
Regards,
WATERLIFE


They also have Paragon and something else I think. I would have no idea how to tell the difference between an internal protozoa infection and worms (other than doing an autopsy?) but I had a hunch it was something that had spread from one fish to another and guessed it was worms, hence starting on the Sterazin.

But... I guess there are lots of different types of parasitic worms, right? So this might be effective on one sort but not the other. And I suspect it would only have to work in a majority of cases for them to manufacture and sell it, that's business, right?

Re flubenol, when I was researching what meds to buy, I got very confused with the whole flubenol situation, there seems to be various different standpoints on its legality, you can still see it on ebay sometimes (not that I would advocate breaking the law) so not sure how illegal it really is.

I'd try that discus stuff before I tried pig dewormer though. I just think that unless you are a vet and/or you really know what you are doing, using meds meant for mammals on fish = dodgy plan.

 

[WILDER]

I just think that unless you are a vet and/or you really know what you are doing, using meds meant for mammals on fish = dodgy plan.


I agree, but also any med to many members add meds when they don't even no what wrong with the fish, ending in more stress to the fish and death most of the time.

 

[rabbut]

A makeshift wormer that a discus keeper I used to know was to dislolve a dog/cat wormer tablet into some warm water, and allow the water to cool. Frozen food was then defrosted in this water, and allowed to soak for a period. Not shure how safe it is though.

HTH
Rabbut

 

[BigC]

I use Flubendazole 5% powder also useful for Hydra eradication in fry tanks (which I use it for predominatly)
http/www.inkmkr.com/Fish/FlubendazoleArticle.pdf
Regards
BigC

 

[WILDER]

Dog and cat wormers might threat thread worms and round worms, but not camallanous worms.
Plus its getting the dosage right, so its a risk.

 

[fourthtimelucky]

I just think that unless you are a vet and/or you really know what you are doing, using meds meant for mammals on fish = dodgy plan.


I agree, but also any med to many members add meds when they don't even no what wrong with the fish, ending in more stress to the fish and death most of the time.

Yep, I would always be very wary of medicating a tank.

Dissolving a tablet meant for dogs into fishfood... I just don't know how you'd even begin to calculate whether that was a safe or effective dosage! A whole lot of trial and error...No way would I take that risk!