What’s up with Ram

[gwand]

On February 25 I received by UPS 12 Glowlight tetras and one Bolivian ram. The ram did not endure the journey well. He had a cloudy right eye and poor color. He looked so decrepit that I was reimbursed for his cost. The seller and I were certain he would die soon. However using a salt bath I nursed him back to health. Two months later I always find lying on the substrate. He has never colored up. My ammonia and nitrite are 0. Nitrate 5 ppm. Water temperature 78F. GH 115 ppm. pH 6.5. The tetras and a pair of a. cacatuoides juveniles, his tank mates, are doing great. Any thoughts?

 

[MaloK]

Since it was in such bad shape, there's is a chance of somewhat long lasting impact.

If he eats well, keeps himself straight, swims right and looks on the right way, only time can tell if his vitality comes back.

There's also the possibility that it will remain the same, some damages could be permanent, this could be even more drastic if he's living a solitary life without stimulation from other like him.

Are you sure he's not harassed by the Mohawks ?

 

[gwand]

Since it was in such bad shape, there's is a chance of somewhat long lasting impact.

If he eats well, keeps himself straight, swims right and looks on the right way, only time can tell if his vitality comes back.

There's also the possibility that it will remain the same, some damages could be permanent, this could be even more drastic if he's living a solitary life without stimulation from other like him.

Are you sure he's not harassed by the Mohawks ?

Right now the tank is tranquil. The son and daughter of Mohawk Man do not bother Ram. But maybe he needs a girlfriend Ram. Thanks.

 

[anewbie]

Right now the tank is tranquil. The son and daughter of Mohawk Man do not bother Ram. But maybe he needs a girlfriend Ram. Thanks.

female rams just make everything more chaotic and messy not happier.

 

[gwand]

female rams just make everything more chaotic and messy not happier.

Why do say that? Even if there is only one male Ram in the tank?

 

[MaloK]

@gwand How did he end-up in your order first ?

 

[anewbie]

Why do say that? Even if there is only one male Ram in the tank?

Well fishes don't form romantic bonds; so what will happen is first the male and female will fight to determine if they are compatible. Then if they are compatible the female will spawn and the male and female will attack all the other fishes and all this chasing and fighting will stress out everyone else and to a degree even the rams. And if you have anything else near the bottom they better run for cover !
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As for your fish health i can't begin to comment without knowing more about the temperature and hardness of the water. I can say i had a sick dwarf cicild once in a 29 that was a wee bit overcrowded so i moved it into a 200 which i was setting up all by himself and in a couple of days he perked right up and lived another 2 years (died last week at the grand old age of 4 1/2).

 

[gwand]

Well fishes don't form romantic bonds; so what will happen is first the male and female will fight to determine if they are compatible. Then if they are compatible the female will spawn and the male and female will attack all the other fishes and all this chasing and fighting will stress out everyone else and to a degree even the rams. And if you have anything else near the bottom they better run for cover !
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As for your fish health i can't begin to comment without knowing more about the temperature and hardness of the water. I can say i had a sick dwarf cicild once in a 29 that was a wee bit overcrowded so i moved it into a 200 which i was setting up all by himself and in a couple of days he perked right up and lived another 2 years (died last week at the grand old age of 4 1/2).

Do you think it’s better to have a sole Bolivian ram or two males. BTW I wrote out all water parameters in my first post in this thread.

 

[anewbie]

water param sound fine for bolivian ram; for gbr it is a bit cold.

As an adult rams are not social critters and do not take advantage of a group. solo males can become territorial but it doesn't always happen. If it becomes territorial it might fight with other male rams.


Are the cockatoo still with him - to be honest it looks like he is hiding to me.

 

[gwand]

water param sound fine for bolivian ram; for gbr it is a bit cold.

As an adult rams are not social critters and do not take advantage of a group. solo males can become territorial but it doesn't always happen. If it becomes territorial it might fight with other male rams.


Are the cockatoo still with him - to be honest it looks like he is hiding to me.

He does hide a lot. Not always. I have not witnessed the juvenile a. cacatuoides pair bullying ram….yet.

 

[Fishkeeper123]

Do you think it’s better to have a sole Bolivian ram or two males. BTW I wrote out all water parameters in my first post in this thread.

2 male rams don’t do well as I witnessed. It let to fighting and battles and eventually the loser stopped eating and was led on the floor of the tank, pretty much all black with no colour. The remaining one seems happy as the only ram but I’m undecided on what to do with him in my tank so I might take him back. Good luck with your new addition Is this is permanent home with the pair of cactuoides or is he getting a new tank?

 

[gwand]

2 male rams don’t do well as I witnessed. It let to fighting and battles and eventually the loser stopped eating and was led on the floor of the tank, pretty much all black with no colour. The remaining one seems happy as the only ram but I’m undecided on what to do with him in my tank so I might take him back. Good luck with your new addition Is this is permanent home with the pair of cactuoides or is he getting a new tank?

Either he will be moved or the cacatuoides will move.