Weird Thing On Guppy's Head

[Amunet]

I just put the 2 surviving guppies we had in our Q/H tank into the main tank.
I was just watching them and noticed that the yellow one has something weird going on with it's head.
Not sure what it is and it's hard to tell if it's fungal b/c the color of the fish is so light.
This is the best pic I could get of it.

It's just like a flap on it's head...I think there is a white cottony spot near that area as well which I'll be getting some meds for when we go out.. but is this flap part the same thing ya think?

 

[WILDER]

Right could she of torn herself the flap thing.
The spot sounds bacterial, but spots can have a parasite attached to them as well.
To be honest can't see the pic that well.
Get a magifying glass and just make sure there not parasite there.

This is columnaris spots which seem to present themselves on the head region.
http/www.aquatic-hobbyist.com/profiles/d...columnaris.html

 

[Amunet]

You know what... it might have that. Don't think the fish has gotten injured in any way so I guess fungus growing on a wound would be out of the question.

What medication should we get to treat it? Maracyn? I keep reading that you should use Maracyn and Maracyn 2 at the same time? Should we do this when we have both meds?

 

[WILDER]

Yes maracyn one and two but increase areation, good luck.

 

[Amunet]

Thanks a bunch!

 

[Amunet]

He's gotten worse.
He has rapid gill movement.. he was swimming at the top of the water.. not gasping.. just breathing rapidly.. now he's resting on the bottom.
The spots on his head are still there. Don't look like they've spread any though.
Think it's still Columnaris?
We just put some Maracyn 1 and 2 into the tank about an hour ago.. but I dunno if we were too late in treating him

 

[WILDER]

Sorry no he's not good, if he's rapid breathing sounds like he's dying.
Columnaris done it damage internally by the sound of it.

 

[WILDER]

Taken from that link.
Symptoms: Symptoms of this disease include grayish-white spots on some part of the head, fins, gills, or body usually surrounded by an area with a reddish tinge. The columnaris lesions on different species of fish vary in size, location, and appearance. These may appear thread-like, particularly around the mouth, giving rise to the incorrect name of 'mouth fungus'. Characteristic lesions can appear on the back, the fins, gills and belly. Catfish, in particular, tend to have lesions on their bellies and sides. Fins will deteriorate and sores may appear on the body. The gills may be affected, giving rise to bacterial gill disease. It may cause 'shimmying' behaviour in fishes, particularly livebearers. Mollies, for some reason, seem to be particularly susceptable. Although columnaris most commonly involves external infections it can occur as an internal systemic infection with no visible external signs.

 

[WILDER]

Maybe some tetracycline if you can issolate the guppy, but with the rapid breathing to be honest it sounds to late.
Columnaris spots are hard to cure in the uk with our meds.

 

[Amunet]

Aww... well... that stinks....
Should we be worried about the other fish in the tank that he was in?

 

[WILDER]

Just some daily water changes for now.
Hows he doing?

 

[Amunet]

Still not too good, but hanging in there.
He was swimming up top for a little bit, but then went back down to the bottom.
He moves around some but you can tell he's weak and struggling.
Still breathing very rapidly.

 

[Amunet]

Welp... it struggled to live but it finally lost its life this morning.
I had wanted bf to put it out of its misery but neither of us had the heart to do it.
Guess we were still hoping it would miraculously get better.

RIP lil fella.

 

[WILDER]

Sorry bless him. R.I.P.
Find guppys very hard to save with columnaris.