Shocking Advice... Or Not?

[PaulEbs]

i was searching around for compatible coldwater plants with munchy goldfish and cam across this apparent list of coldwater fish... although, I'm pretty sure quite a few of these should be in warmer, tropical water...

apparent coldwater fish list

If i am right, and she is wrong, i will notify her.. but once i have your opinions...

Bad information isn't good. wrong information is worse.

 

[catxx]

hillstream loaches, weather loaches and white cloud mountain minnows i know WILL tolerate a coldwater tank.

i wouldn't count a guppy as coldwater.

the others i'm not so sure, could go either way as I don't know much about them.

 

[so-fishy!]

i was searching around for compatible coldwater plants with munchy goldfish and cam across this apparent list of coldwater fish... although, I'm pretty sure quite a few of these should be in warmer, tropical water...

apparent coldwater fish list

If i am right, and she is wrong, i will notify her.. but once i have your opinions...

Bad information isn't good. wrong information is worse.

I may be a newbie..but I know Guppies are definately are TROPICAL!!!!! Is she supposed to be an expert? What a joke!!!

 

[Teelie]

Hillstream Loaches are subtropical, not coldwater but they can survive in high-temperature cold water conditions.

As to the rest, you'll notice most "tolerate" but do not thrive or naturally exist in coldwater conditions. I can 'tolerate" living in Alaska for instance but I wouldn't thrive there either.

 

[lljdma06]

Hillstream Loaches are subtropical, not coldwater but they can survive in high-temperature cold water conditions.

As to the rest, you'll notice most "tolerate" but do not thrive or naturally exist in coldwater conditions. I can 'tolerate" living in Alaska for instance but I wouldn't thrive there either.

I was wondering when someone will point out the constant use of the word "tolerate". It's all in how you say things. Many of the barbs and danios come from fast-moving, colder mountain streams. I'm sure they wouldn't be thrilled with a tropical tank of 80, but I wouldn't classify them as coldwater!

Aquariumplants.com has a nice selection of plants that would be alright to plant with Goldfish. Tough leaves are a must. Try anubias, java fern, etc. Egeria densa might actually do well, many people put that in a tropical tank only to find it rots. My experience is that it does better in cooler conditions. It is often used as a pond plant. When I kept my goldies, I kept them with egeria densa and was going to make a planted larger tank for them featuring the above plants when Katrina took care of my goldfish for me. There are also a few other US based plant websites that offer goldfish packages.

 

[PaulEbs]

I was wondering when someone will point out the constant use of the word "tolerate". It's all in how you say things. Many of the barbs and danios come from fast-moving, colder mountain streams. I'm sure they wouldn't be thrilled with a tropical tank of 80, but I wouldn't classify them as coldwater!

Aquariumplants.com has a nice selection of plants that would be alright to plant with Goldfish. Tough leaves are a must. Try anubias, java fern, etc. Egeria densa might actually do well, many people put that in a tropical tank only to find it rots. My experience is that it does better in cooler conditions. It is often used as a pond plant. When I kept my goldies, I kept them with egeria densa and was going to make a planted larger tank for them featuring the above plants when Katrina took care of my goldfish for me. There are also a few other US based plant websites that offer goldfish packages.

thank you for the info on coldwater plants! much appreciated... still not sure what to go for though.

I just wanted to point out how easy it is for people to give miss-guided info, and that from her Q&A bit on coldwater fish, I bet theres a few people who have looked at that, bought some guppies and no heater?!

 

[ramaseseniblikxviii]

All of the sources I have used say that none of those fish should be kept below 68 F minimum, although I am not sure about the Weather Loaches.

 

[OohFeeshy]

A lot are subtropical, but considering average room temperature in our modern, centrally heated houses, subtropical easily is covered by room temp. But, as already mentioned, 'tolerates' is a broad word- you could keep any]/i] tropical fish, even very warm water fish like discus, at 'coldwater' temperatures, but whether they survive, thrive or die is another matter completely.