Need To Treat My Fish - What About The Filter?

Mardeb

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My Siamese Fighting Fish seems to have white round his gills which I don't remember being there until I spotted it yesterday. I bought some Methylene Blue aquarium treatment to put in the tank but it says to remove the carbon filter. Is it ok to not have any kind of filter in the tank? I've only had tropical fish since September so I'm still quite a newbie!
 
What size tank is he in.
Can you post your water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.
Do you use declorinator when you do a water change.
Any excess mucas on the gills.

A). The gill filaments are light, having lost color Has the pH changed?
Is chlorine in the water?
Is ammonia in the water? Establish optimum water values. Check pH, and Chlorine. Use Aqua Gold.

The fish can be affected by a Kidney Disease Treat fish with TMP Sulfa -or- Erythromycin.
 
Cl2 = 0
pH = 6.8
KH = 6 - 10
GH = 16
NO2 = 0
NO3 = Back up to 100 again. It was down to 50 yesterday.

My tank is 30 litres. I did a water change of 10 litres on Sunday cos the NO3 said 100.

I put in 2mls of Fresh start when I changed the water.

The pH has been 6.8 for a long time.

Tom (my Siamese Fighter Fish) doesn't seem to be swimming about quite as much as usual. I couple of times he seemed to be asleep but then swam around again when he saw me. I assumed it was just cos the light on my tank stopped working a couple of weeks ago so he's not so active. I've lost 2 oto catfish as well recently.

It is only white behind his gills. He seems to be swimming around quite happily at the moment.
 
Do you do a gravel vac and you do a water change.
When did you last rinse a filter sponge in tank water.
White gills can be anemia I think, sorry don't know how to spell it.

Any signs of flicking and rubbing.
 
No I don't do a gravel vac. I assumed that the catfishes would do that for me! I'll go and buy one tomorrow!
The filter was last changed on 18th Oct. I rinsed out the bit in front in the aquarium water at the same time and replaced it.

Sorry, didn't see the last bit. Haven't noticed any flicking or rubbing.
 
I would buy a gravel vac.
Then remove all ornaments and give the substate a good hoover.
If the sponge is really mucked up you rinse one sponge in old tank water.
If only one sponge in filter don't go mad just squeeze it gently in old tank water.

As for the white behind the gill not sure what it is.
Does it look white and slimey.
 
Pale gills can be bacterial gillrot.

Bacterial Gill Disease
Bacterial Gill Disease, also referred to as "BGD" is when the gills of the fish are eaten away by bacterial infection. To check for this disease, carefully pull back the gill plate enough to examine the gill tissue. It should be red and smooth with even edges. Signs of the disease include pale gills and frayed edges. The tissue itself may appear "moth eaten". Although bad bacteria cause infections and contribute to the death of the fish the bacteria themselves do not actually initiate the disease. It's other things. BGD can develop through overcrowding, parasitic infestation (most likely Flukes) and poor water quality. It is spread from one fish to another and can come in with new arrivals. The best way to treat BGD is to get rid of whatever is causing it then treat the symptoms. Find more information on bacterial diseases in our article, "Battle of the Bacteria".

Since BGD is initiated by poor water quality, parasites and/or overcrowded conditions you must first correct the problem that's causing it. #1 - Test the water for pH, Ammonia and Nitrites. A master test kit is available that will cover all these very necessary tests. If you find any readings of ammonia or nitrites, fix the problem! If you pH is not between 7.0 and 8.0 and/or is not stable, correct it and stabilize it using pH Stabilizer. #2 - If the water tests are fine then look for signs of parasites. If parasites are suspected then it's most likely Flukes and, to be on the safe side, I would treat the pond for Flukes using Anti-Fluke or Fluke Tabs and Perform a Salt Treatment at the same time. #3 - Treat the disease itself with Chloramine T. NEVER USE MORE THAN ONE KIND OF TREATMENT AT THE SAME TIME - THIS WILL RESULT IN FISH DEATH. The only exception would be the salt.
 
Discoloured gills can be a number of things so make sure the fish is not flicking and rubbing or trying to rub its gills on things in the tank.
It can be parasites, bacterial, fungal.
http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/hdgilld.htm
 
I don't think it looks slimy, just white.
There is the big green filter at the back and a smaller black one at the front. The green one gets replaced but I keep the little black one at the front.

I think I'll do another water change tonight and rinse the black filter in the old water.

I've bought a new tank because I couldn't fix the light on this one. I've also got some new gravel to put in it. I was going to change over the tanks later in the week.

Shall I remove the filters and put in this Methylene Blue? I assume it can only do good?
 
If he's not flicking and rubbing I would use a bacterial med.
Don't use the methylene blue some brands can wipe all the benefical bacteria out in the filter.
Get your nitrate reading down as over 100 its start to be harmful to a fish.
 
Okay - I'm off to do the water change now and I'll have a re-think tomorrow.

Thanks for all your advice and the website link.
 
If the fish isn't flicking and rubbing I would take the bacterial route.
Maracyn plus if in the united states.
Anti internal bacteria med by interpet if in the uk.
 
Just realised I've been adding the fresh start incorrectly. I've added it straight to the aquarium water but it says to dissolve it in 1/2 litre of warm water first. I hope that didn't mean it was ineffective....
 
Its best to mix in a bucket of water.
Not sure what happens when you just add it to a tank.
Only added to a tank when setting the tank up as no harm will be done as there no fish in the tank.
 

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