Limia Tridens

[FishEnthusiast]

Hello,

I am just curious to find out if any of you have ever kept Limia Tridens before. I have an opportunity to get a pair or two and I would like to know more about them. They are such beautiful fish, I would love to own a pair if I could.

I have picked the brain of the girl who is importing the fish. She has promised me she would speak to the breeder to find out more. What she has told me so far is that they prefer to have salt in their water, the breeder puts about 1 tbls/gallon into their water, they also prefer harder water, however she could not tell me a ph range.

I have been trying to search google, but there just isn't very much information on these fish. I was at my lfs and the employee there pulled out his trusty fish atlas and the Tridens wasn't in there! I am really hoping there is a livebearer expert here who can give me more information on this fish.


Thanks!

 

[nmonks]

Limia tridens is an invalid name; the fish is actually called Limia dominicensis:

http/filaman.ifm-geomar.de/summary/Speci...ry.php?id=27702

It is in John Dawes "Livebearing Fishes", for a start, where it is describe as pretty but not very hardy. Needs slightly alkaline, warm (25 C) water; no salt.

Cheers,

Neale

 

[dwarfgourami]

Baensch does not mention tridens as a synonym (explains why I haven't been able to find it all morning), but says of dominicensis: "peaceful appealing toothcarp that is suitable as a companion of correspondingly gentle species. Provide a well-planted, well-oxygenated tank with good water turnover. give regular water changes...In its natural biotope dense vegetation shades the hbitat. Sexual maturity is achieved at approximately 4 months age. Gestation lasts for about 24 days and females give birth to between 15 and 50, 6 mm long young. A female can only breed 3-4 times; thereafter, it is nearly infertile. Omnivore: flake foods, algae, live food (frozen). "

Looks a nice fish! Keep us updated if you do go for them.

 

[FishEnthusiast]

Limia tridens is an invalid name; the fish is actually called Limia dominicensis:

http/filaman.ifm-geomar.de/summary/Speci...ry.php?id=27702

It is in John Dawes "Livebearing Fishes", for a start, where it is describe as pretty but not very hardy. Needs slightly alkaline, warm (25 C) water; no salt.

Cheers,

Neale

Thanks for your reply.

I can't find any pictures of the fish you mention.
This is the fish I am thinking about getting. Is it the same?

The reason I ask is because of the salt. These fish are coming from a member of the American Livebearer Association, and they keep them in about 1 tbsp/G of salt. They say that the fish do not do as well without salt, and their colours are brighter with salt in their water.

http/fishbase.sinica.edu.tw/summary/Spec...ry.php?id=49033. I was directed to this site by the person who is offering me the fish. As you can see, there isn't much information to go on. Do you have a picture of the Limia dominicensis? I am aware that the Tridens are not a hardy species, these fish are not wild caught, however they are wild type. I believe that they are a bit hardier than the wild caught species.

I can also get my hands on some Limia Vittata, and possibly some Xenophorus Captivus, xenotoca Eiseni and others. I am like a kid in a candy store. As a number of these fish aren't being bred in Canada, a few of us breeders are planning on starting a breeding program and possibly starting a local livebearer association. Right now I am just trying to decide which species to get.

Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.

 

[dwarfgourami]

They certainly look like the picture of dominicensis in Baensch's Aquarium Atlas; though the ones in your pic seem even more goodlooking. He doesn't mention there being a brackish population, so maybe the salt your friends add is more about hardness (is your local water soft?).

I'm in the same position as yourself, planning for some unusual livebearers (just waiting to have the floor done, so I can order a big tank and reshuffle my current fish). Isn't it exciting? I keep drooling over the trade pages and changing my mind every day.

Have just read warnings about the eiseni btw, apparently they play rough, inveterate fin-nippers, so a species tank required.

 

[calum]

They certainly look like the picture of dominicensis in Baensch's Aquarium Atlas; though the ones in your pic seem even more goodlooking. He doesn't mention there being a brackish population, so maybe the salt your friends add is more about hardness (is your local water soft?).

I'm in the same position as yourself, planning for some unusual livebearers (just waiting to have the floor done, so I can order a big tank and reshuffle my current fish). Isn't it exciting? I keep drooling over the trade pages and changing my mind every day.

Have just read warnings about the eiseni btw, apparently they play rough, inveterate fin-nippers, so a species tank required.

8) the fish you are looking at is a black hump back limia or black barred limia nigrofasciata.they do in fresh or brackish water, i have a purple variant too.

 

[dwarfgourami]

8) the fish you are looking at is a black hump back limia or black barred limia nigrofasciata.they do in fresh or brackish water, i have a purple variant too.

Are you sure the fish in the first picture were nigrofasciata? They don't look anywhere as chunky.

 

[FishEnthusiast]

I am pretty sure they are not nigrofasciata. I have picked up a pair and they do not look anything like the pictures. They are very slender in the body.

While they came to be as living under brackish conditions I decided to acclimate them to fresh water. They are doing wonderfully well and my female is currently very pregnant. I can't wait for babies.

I also picked up a pair of Limia Vittata. The female dropped 4 fry about 3 weeks ago. I am told this is a very small brood, as they can have up to 200 fry at a time. I am pretty sure the small brood size had a lot to do with her young age as well as the fact that she was probably pregnant when I had her shipped to me.

The time has come for me to shuffle my tanks around and get both pairs of limia into 20G tanks. ATM they are in 10G tanks, but they are growing fast and I want them to have more room.

 

[Sticky Wicket]

Why is everyone quoting John Daws book. I read things in his books I don't agree with. After keeping livebearers for near on 50 years. I've my own opinions what is a livebearer and what isn't. Some of his said to be livebearers certainly are not in my opinion. There are other works on livebearers to consider.

 

[pippoodle]

limia nigrofasciata are a great fish if you decide to get some of these
i keep mine ph 7-7.2 - soft water (no reading sorry)
temp 22-25

pics of mine
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=268917
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=274281

 

[dunchp]

This is an old thread guys.

For the record, here is a photo of Limia tridens.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=255475

 

[arzerkle]

i have adult female and 5 4 fry -& need a male
anyone in the US have a spare male?
Thanxs Amy
Ohio

 

[Jonathangerous]

Tridens look nothing like the photos that you commonly see in aquarium books and the like. Only when two males are vigorously displaying do they appear brilliantly colored.