I keep forgetting to thaw frozen foods, but...LIVE FOOD thoughts

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I've made some excellent frozen foods, using soldier fly larvae, shrimp and veggie ingredients. My fish are either insectivores or detritivores, so I don't have to worry about veggie food directly.

This all well and good, but my freezer is in the house, and my fishroom is in a detached garage 30 metres away. When I go out on these cold mornings, I keep forgetting to snap off a hunk of my carefully prepared food. Once I'm in the fishroom, the idea of going back through sub zero temps is unappealing. I never bother with a coat or jacket for such a short distance, but...

I hatch out baby brine shrimp 5 times per week - along with energy it's the main cost for the room. They work out to 30 cents a day, for 30 tanks. I also have multiple white/grindal worm cultures in boxes along the floor, and have been culturing wingless fruit flies for my hatchet fish. As the cultures have been working, I've been feeding all 50 tanks with live most days - rotating the foods. About every fourth or fifth day I remember to thaw some frozen, and I do have black soldier fly pellets, ground up fly larvae and flake for specific uses. My corys get some pellets. Surface oriented fry get some floating dried food, and so on.

My disorganization is paying off. I have some Epiplatys huberi killies I caught in 2023 as adults, who were starting to look old. On a straight live food diet, they've regained lost weight and are starting to look like the young they've produced again. I can identify the individuals up close, but from a distance, they look like the younger ones in shape and colour. Prepared foods weren't doing it..

Wingless fruit flies have drawbacks. They live for a long time on meadows of floating plants, and the fish hunt them slowly as they get hungry. I don't get mad rushes to the food when I feed those tanks. Rather, I see a visible brightening of the fish, and a hyper alert body language as they begin to look for careless flies. That's good. But some flies always crawl up the glass and out - an issue in a house, but not in a garage with pitcher plants. Yesterday, I restarted cultures and since I re-use containers, I had to deal with the odour of old culture media. It's nasty, not for in the house. Outside in Canada, it freezes fast and the smell goes away.

Once every one to two weeks, I take 20 minutes and make new fly cultures. I take 5 minutes and make a microworm culture, which I haven't needed since the corys haven't been breeding. The whiteworms get fed kitten food (dried but sprayed with water) every second or third day when I harvest. Brine shrimp's regular, at minutes a day.

Live food is something to explore. It can cost to start, but once it's rolling, it's cheap and VERY effective.
 
I culture a batch of vinegar eels every now and then but I really need to get off my butt and do more. BBS is kind of a pain.
I miss the days when I could walk into the lfs and buy live tubifex. Never did figure out why they're nowhere to be found nowadays.
 
I've made some excellent frozen foods, using soldier fly larvae, shrimp and veggie ingredients. My fish are either insectivores or detritivores, so I don't have to worry about veggie food directly.

This all well and good, but my freezer is in the house, and my fishroom is in a detached garage 30 metres away. When I go out on these cold mornings, I keep forgetting to snap off a hunk of my carefully prepared food. Once I'm in the fishroom, the idea of going back through sub zero temps is unappealing. I never bother with a coat or jacket for such a short distance, but...

I hatch out baby brine shrimp 5 times per week - along with energy it's the main cost for the room. They work out to 30 cents a day, for 30 tanks. I also have multiple white/grindal worm cultures in boxes along the floor, and have been culturing wingless fruit flies for my hatchet fish. As the cultures have been working, I've been feeding all 50 tanks with live most days - rotating the foods. About every fourth or fifth day I remember to thaw some frozen, and I do have black soldier fly pellets, ground up fly larvae and flake for specific uses. My corys get some pellets. Surface oriented fry get some floating dried food, and so on.

My disorganization is paying off. I have some Epiplatys huberi killies I caught in 2023 as adults, who were starting to look old. On a straight live food diet, they've regained lost weight and are starting to look like the young they've produced again. I can identify the individuals up close, but from a distance, they look like the younger ones in shape and colour. Prepared foods weren't doing it..

Wingless fruit flies have drawbacks. They live for a long time on meadows of floating plants, and the fish hunt them slowly as they get hungry. I don't get mad rushes to the food when I feed those tanks. Rather, I see a visible brightening of the fish, and a hyper alert body language as they begin to look for careless flies. That's good. But some flies always crawl up the glass and out - an issue in a house, but not in a garage with pitcher plants. Yesterday, I restarted cultures and since I re-use containers, I had to deal with the odour of old culture media. It's nasty, not for in the house. Outside in Canada, it freezes fast and the smell goes away.

Once every one to two weeks, I take 20 minutes and make new fly cultures. I take 5 minutes and make a microworm culture, which I haven't needed since the corys haven't been breeding. The whiteworms get fed kitten food (dried but sprayed with water) every second or third day when I harvest. Brine shrimp's regular, at minutes a day.

Live food is something to explore. It can cost to start, but once it's rolling, it's cheap and VERY effective.
When feeding flightless fruit flies to dart frogs I always found it helpful to place.the fruit flies in the freezer for just a minute or two just to cool them down. It puts them in a state of suspended animation. They are still alive but not moving. After I put them in a petri dish or feeding dish for the frogs the flies would warm up and start moving which stimulated the predatory reaction in the frogs.
I wonder if this technique could help you feed more efficiently with less escaped flies?
 
It probably would help to cool them down, but the freezer is far away. I actually don't mind a few escapes because the fish aren't in the house. If they were, I'd be using the freezer for certain.

I allow spiders up high in the corners, and in summer, flying things get in through the fans when they're off. They become live food - every morning I see a lot of flying bugs, but by early afternoon, they are gone. Water attracts them and they become killie treats, if the spiders don't pick them off. Mosquitoes get in and I get the odd bite, but maybe one or two a summer in there.

In summer, I have decent outdoor Daphnia pulex cultures, and mosquito larvae if I allow it (I usually do, a bit, if I am there all the time to keep any hatches from bothering neighbours).

I always feel very bloody minded when I talk of live food, but one feeding of fruit flies onto the duckweed or frogbit feeds the fish for most of the day - slowly and steadily. Maybe 5% escape, and good on them if they find food.

Having a fishroom outside the house pays off. It's a cold walk over in winter, but the advantages outweigh the negatives. At least they do for culturing bugs... if I win a lottery, there's a fish greenhouse coming!
 
We have two buildings. Most of my pleco breeding and grow tanks were not in the main house. We have a freezer out in the second building in the room where my fish are. All thew frozen foods are out there. The one exception is the frozen cooked shrimp which are in the main house as I defrost them in the fridge there starting the day before feeding them. the day before feeding them. Olus I only feed them in obe tank which is in the main house.
 
Wingless fruit flies have drawbacks. They live for a long time on meadows of floating plants, and the fish hunt them slowly as they get hungry.
The coolest video I’ve ever seen was one that Dan’s Fish had on his website a long time ago . He has Water Sprite grown as a floater in most of his aquariums and this video showed Aplocheilus blockii actively hunting fruit flies on the plants . They were practically running across the plants getting the flies and out of the water for the most part .
 

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