How To Use King British Ws3 Whitespot Treatment

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hi guys and girls

have noticed the early stages of whitespot in my tank i have used interpet no9 before and it worked but i was given some king british ws3 by my lfs as he said it is much more effective and quicker as its full strength as i have not had time to speak to him since i was wondering how you use it??

i know the interpet said to mix with warm water and then add evenly over the surface of the tank but the king british one says nothing of this so do i just use the pippette and add straight to the tank???

i know i must half dose as i have scale less loaches in my tank

by the way its a 180 tropical tank all water perameters are ok

at amonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 10

its an 8 month old setup

your replies are very much appreciated
 
hi guys and girls

have noticed the early stages of whitespot in my tank i have used interpet no9 before and it worked but i was given some king british ws3 by my lfs as he said it is much more effective and quicker as its full strength as i have not had time to speak to him since i was wondering how you use it??

i know the interpet said to mix with warm water and then add evenly over the surface of the tank but the king british one says nothing of this so do i just use the pippette and add straight to the tank???

i know i must half dose as i have scale less loaches in my tank

by the way its a 180 tropical tank all water perameters are ok

at amonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 10

its an 8 month old setup

your replies are very much appreciated


hey are the whitespots on your fish to? because if it they are u need to treat the right away because it's a diseases called "ick" and will kill your hole tank if not treated asap
 
yes the one yoyo loach has a spot on fin an the other one has it on the body the others are starting to flick i have never lost fish before due to ick but like i say i have been giving this king british ws3 just wondered if any one has used it before and how to administrate it as there is no clear instructions like the interpet one thanks for you reply
 
literally just pour the correct dosage directly into your tank. its easily the quickest most effective ich treatment ive ever used. but as you said its rather potent so youre spot on about using half dose with your loaches .
 
Add half the dosage, (however preferred) every other day until 7 days after all spots have gone,
 
Add half the dosage, (however preferred) every other day until 7 days after all spots have gone,

I wonder why you suggest every other day? The ich lifecycle is 2 to 4 days at tropical temperatures, and I think every other day gives the organism too good of a chance to slip through.

I'd dose every day.

to the OP:

have a read through this: http://www.skepticalaquarist.com/docs/health/ich.shtml It covers a lot of the facts and myths about ich. It is well worth the read, and if you have any questions, don't hesitate to post them to the forum
 
Those are the guidelines of the product, "treat every 48hours"
 
Those are the guidelines of the product, "treat every 48hours"

Ok, but I think that that is wrong. Ich medications that need to be constantly re-dosed work by oxidizing cells. The hope is that oxidizing the tissues of the ich organism in its free-swimming stage (the only stage it is vulnerable to medications) will kill off the much simpler organism than oxidizing some cells of the complex organism like a fish.

The trouble is that oxidizing is a pretty quick reaction -- especially in an oxygen-rich environment like a fish tank. We know it is oxygen rich -- fish live in it. Oxidizing medication will not be active for 48 hours. It has almost no chance of even being active after still 24 hours, or even 12 hours, really.

This is why people have noticed success by performing a gravel vac before dosing ich medication. It probably isn't sucking up ich organisms as is commonly thought -- but it is sucking up all sorts of organic material that would otherwise be oxidized when it came into contact with the medication. Stuff like dead leaves, fish poo, etc. would all be oxidized if still in the tank, thusly taking away activity of the medication that would otherwise hopefully be going to kill the ich organisms.

The above is as opposed to the long-acting medications like a copper-based medicine that is designed to be stable in the tank for longer than a month.

So, knowing the reactivity of an oxidizing material coupled with the fact that some stains of ich can have a cycle as short as 2 days (especially if you turn up the temperature like many people suggest), I think that dosing every other day is insufficient.

I would strongly recommend dosing every day at the same time if possible. This way you try to catch all of the organism as it enters its free swimming stage.

Lastly, manufacturers are not always the best source of this information. There is still a major manufacturer whose dosing instructions is add once, wait 4 days and add one more time. If you understand the ich lifecycle (again, see the link in my post above) you'll see why this will never be effective.

I hate to say it, but the manufacturers are there to sell you a product. And, following inefficient dosing schedules will probably do a decent job killing a fair number of the ich organism, but won't kill 100% of the infection. And, I think that the manufacturers don't mind this. Consider the scenario: you dose inefficiently, killing 75% of the ich. The symptoms go away -- that is the fish don't show any spots and aren't flicking. So, you think you are done. Then, 10 months later, ich breaks out again. So, you go and buy more medicine. The ich breaks out again because you never killed 100%, and the fish were still asymptomatic carriers. Fish can carry the organism in their gills where you can't see the spots. And, their immune system if healthy and strong can fight off the ich for a long time.

It is scenarios like the above that lead to myths like "Ich is in every tank." Which is utter rubbish. (Not to beat a dead horse, but see the link I posted above.)

If you dose efficiently -- every day and a minimum of 7 days after symptoms show (I'd personally do 14 or even 21 days if the fish aren't showing any undue stress). You will kill 100% of the ich in your tank. And then it won't come back unless you reintroduce it by not properly quarantining new fish or plants.

So, in conclusion, I strongly recommend dosing every day, despite what the instructions day.
 
thanks ever so much for the replies i have been dosing straight into the tank just wanted check thats right an by the looks it is its being a #28### to shift but its slowly getting there everyone seems happy no flicking just got to keep treating till spots have gone an keep treating afterwards

very much appreciate the replies
 

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