Angels pairing

[Oldspartan]

I think two of our Angels are pairing. They have taken residence in a large area of the tank and do not allow other Angels to encroach. Is that an identifier, (I am going to do a google search so do not think me lazy). Just want some forum opinions.

One of the Angels is our original, about 7 months in our tank, was about dime size when purchased. The other is one of the half dozen we purchased a couple of months. The remaining 5 Angels still swim randomly in the area they allowed to.

I believe the older is a male and the other a female, but I am still looking at pictures.

If pairing I will move them to another tank. We all know what Linda wants to do.

 

[Oldspartan]

Question solved.

They have not only paired -- but we also have eggs. Linda knew early afternoon and wanted to see if I noticed when feeding. I did!

Will need to decide whether to move them and their eggs to the breeder/fry tank or move the other five Angels that sre currently living in a small area of the tank. One move or the other tomorrow morning.

Linda is giddy, I am happy for her.

 

[fishorama]

Congrats! If you can, it'd be better to move the other angels. The pair might not recognize their eggs in a new setting. Don't be alarmed if this 1st try doesn't work well, they may eat the eggs to "protect" them. Sometimes they need a "practice round" to get better at egg & fry care, Good luck!

 

[Oldspartan]

Moved the unpaired Angels this morning but it appears that during the night many of the eggs became snacks.

Most of what are left are a shade of white that I read indicates a poor chance of hatching anything. At any rate ma and pa appear to be occasionally munching them.

Linda is quite unhappy with that, but I am sure they will give eggs again and we will be better prepared to move them for protection.

Linda is trying to use this as an excuse to fit those two extra tanks into the fish room. I am resisting but suppose she will eventually have her way after the surgery.

 

[Ceez]

Moved the unpaired Angels this morning but it appears that during the night many of the eggs became snacks.

Most of what are left are a shade of white that I read indicates a poor chance of hatching anything. At any rate ma and pa appear to be occasionally munching them.

Linda is quite unhappy with that, but I am sure they will give eggs again and we will be better prepared to move them for protection.

Linda is trying to use this as an excuse to fit those two extra tanks into the fish room. I am resisting but suppose she will eventually have her way after the surgery.

Sir I have just one question for you, are you a man or a mouse! Tell Linda I was just kidding

 

[anewbie]

It can take young angelfishes 4 to 8 trys to get it right. You know practice makes perfect.

 

[Oldspartan]

I have been married a very long time. I have breakfast served daily, lunch if I want it, and dinner every night. When I say served that is precisely what I mean. In return I dig her gardens, plant her large bushes, and generally give her whatever she desires within my means. Breeding critters is her current desire and if more tanks are required I will find a place for them, maintain them, and fortunately also enjoy them.

I admit to be henpecked in some matters. I wear the tiara happily.

 

[Oldspartan]

Angel put down eggs again.
Nice, neat rows on the wood stump.
Angels ate the eggs again.

A bummer.

 

[fishorama]

Practice makes perfect, be patient.

 

[TwoTankAmin]

I had my angels spawn in the planted community tank they were growing out in when they paired. I learned a few things and tricks. When there are other fish in the tank which might be willing and wanting to eat the pair's eggs if they get the chance, night is not a bad time to try. So, I was taught to keep a not too bright night light on out side the tank that would keep the area where the eggs and the pair were from being totally dark.

But, I was also told that when parents who are guarding their eggs fear they are going to be eaten by others, the parents will eat them. Better they should do so than other fish.

I had the fish in a planted community and they ate their's or lost them to others, So, I decided to pull the next spawn to a hatching tank. I cut the Anubias leaf in the pic below and moved it to a 5.5 gal hatching tank. If yours continue eating the eggs, pulling them may be your best option if you want to try to raise them.

I was told there a few 100 eggs on that leaf.

Newborn angel fry really need live food. So that meant hatching BBS which I hated having to do. They can be weened onto non-live after about 10 days. Here is an article which helped me with angels Cindy Hawley - Angelfish It is from the FINS which is where I learned about basic water chemistry.

 

[Oldspartan]

I had my angels spawn in the planted community tank they were growing out in when they paired. I learned a few things and tricks. When there are other fish in the tank which might be willing and wanting to eat the pair's eggs if they get the chance, night is not a bad time to try. So, I was taught to keep a not too bright night light on out side the tank that would keep the area where the eggs and the pair were from being totally dark.

But, I was also told that when parents who are guarding their eggs fear they are going to be eaten by others, the parents will eat them. Better they should do so than other fish.

I had the fish in a planted community and they ate their's or lost them to others, So, I decided to pull the next spawn to a hatching tank. I cut the Anubias leaf in the pic below and moved it to a 5.5 gal hatching tank. If yours continue eating the eggs, pulling them may be your best option if you want to try to raise them.

I was told there a few 100 eggs on that leaf.

Newborn angel fry really need live food. So that meant hatching BBS which I hated having to do. They can be weened onto non-live after about 10 days. Here is an article which helped me with angels Cindy Hawley - Angelfish It is from the FINS which is where I learned about basic water chemistry.

Thank You for the information. Interestingly we are doing much of what you are suggesting -- not from knowledge but by accident.

The two Angels have only a young and small Pleco for company. The tank is gently lighted from a night light we leave on to ensure we do not stumble moving through the room (never know what the two dogs and cat leave laying around). The tank is one of the few that has live plants, (in combo with silk), and also has a rock pile with a "stump" and branched log. The eggs have both times been laid on a root from the stump that rises about half way up the tank.

Next time I will try moving the eggs to the QT tank to see what happens. I can divide it easily to isolate them from the small shoal we keep in that tank for cycling purposes.

Thank You for the input.