Very Low Ph

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My current pH is below 6.0.

I measured our tap water's pH and its neutral 7.0 so why does my tank water have a pH of below 6? There is no driftwood in it. Ammonia 0 Nitrites 0 Nitrates about 20. So what makes the water acidic once it goes in my tank?

What can I do to keep it at about 7 or 7.5 so I can keep some live bearers and cory cats. I know about crushed coral in my filter but dont know where to get them from.
 
Acidification happens sometimes in cycling tanks but your water stats are perfect. What's in the tank and how big is it? Sometimes overstocking or overfeeding can cause rotting detritus to accumulate in the gravel and make the water acid. It's worse if you have an undergravel, sometimes you get stuff building up under the plates and rotting, which makes the water acid. What filter are you using?

The easiest way to raise the pH and keep it up is to use oxyshells. They dissolve slowly and release chemicals that increase the pH, and also 'buffers' which are chemicals that increase the ability of the water to resist a change in pH. Essentially, they make the pH rise and they keep it there. You can also buy liquid pH buffers to add to your tank when you change the water. The only problem with these is that they increase water hardness. I'm trying to fix a tank at the moment that had been dosed with so many oxyshells I couldn't find a hardness test that would pick up just how hard it was.

Basically oxyshells or buffers in moderation would be very useful, they could get the pH up to about 6.5-7. Most corydoras will tolerate a wide range of pH, and this is close enough to neutral for them. Livebearers are very accomodating fish and will put up with almost anything as long as the water is clean, but steer clear from mollies. They like a higher pH, very warm water and hard water. They are also very difficult to keep healthy without a considerable amount of salt in the water. Personally I would only keep sailfin mollies in a brackish water tank, and the smaller molly hybrids are fussy and need pampering.
 
You can get crushed coral at a petstore. We got a big bag of it from petsmart. Just look in the salt water section or wherever they keep the gravel.
I think seashells would also work? Not sure on that.

And there are certain rocks that help raise pH. Can't remember the names for the life of me though heh.

And as a last resort, there is always baking soda. I would personally use baking soda before ever using the expensive liquid stuff.
Test out a small amount first. Maybe a teaspoon or half a tablespoon depending on how large the tank is.
Wait an hour then test the water to see where pH is at and then go from there.
That is... if nothing else works.
 
You can buy the "Proper Ph" at whatever Ph you would like, I still have a tub of PH 7.5 from my old livebearer tank, costs maybe £5 but would last ages.

Alternatively, methods such as crushed coral dow orth suprisingly well.

JJ
 
You can use limestone chips or coral sand which are sold as substrates for marine tanks, put them in the filter. They slowly dissolve but again raise hardness. If you do resort to baking soda, make sure it's pure. Dissolve however much you are using in water before adding it to the tank. If possible add into the filter intake or outlet to spread it more evenly. Don't change the pH very suddenly or you will stress the fish. Make a 0.25 unit change daily until you get to where you want the pH, and then work out how much to add each water change so it stays there.
 
i finally found some coral sand :D where do i put it in my tank's filter though? im using the aqua one 620.. its about 20 gallons and so far theres only 2 albino corys in it. :) oh, and can stress coat or stress zyme lower the ph?
 
By "coral sand" do you mean "crushed coral", which should look like pieces of broken up coral and shells? It should be much bigger than sand, in order to be easy to keep inside the filter (but perhaps there's a technique I don't know about with a very fine cloth bag or something..) Anyway, assuming its the rougher crushed coral, here's the bits of lore I've read on TFF:

You should always start with a small amount, the usual recommendation being a small pile in the palm of your hand, not a full handful, but not a tiny amount either. Ideally it should go in a mesh bag if you need to keep it separate from whatever other media its in with in the filter. This is important because you are going to have to pull it out during some of your regular filter cleanings (perhaps every cleaning if they are monthly or so.) You pull it out and examine and rinse it in order to get the debris and even bacteria off of it, otherwise it will clog up and not continue to dissolve into the tank. (This is of course in direct contrast to your other biomedia, like ceramics or sponges, where you want to take great care of your bacteria.) With the crushed coral you can even clean it in tap water, something you would never do to your biomedia (assuming of course the you still have plenty of biomedia and haven't made your coral a significant percentage of your filter media, which you shouldn't.

You need to be aware that it is very slow. It may not do anything to your pH for 2 or 3 weeks, but you should keep testing periodically and eventually decide if you want to gradually increase the amount of crushed coral a bit. Always make these increases fairly small and then give it weeks of testing to decide whether to increase or stop.

By my readings, crushed coral is the most highly recommended (here on TFF) way to preceed to raise your pH with fish in the tank. Purpose-sold chemicals are faster, and there are those that say they are ok, but many comment that its easier to get pH swings with chemicals and swings that are bad enough to be bad for your fish. Baking Soda certainly does the job accurately and is cheap, but it is also the fastest and goes away quickly, so takes even more careful monitoring - almost impossible not to have a mistake eventually with baking soda. I think baking soda is the method of choice for fishless cycling -- for that function its fast and accurate and then you can get rid of all of it at the last big water change before fish.. so its wonderful for fishless. But for fish, its too risky in my opinion, just because of human failings.

~~waterdrop~~
ps. Amunet, some day I want to meet that cat.
 

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