The Plan For My Future Community Tank

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I intend to start my first fishtank soon. I want to get fish just after new years, and want at least a few months to get it set up how I want and have time for a fishless cycle. I've been doing lots of research, going to our LFS, asking them what they can get, seeing what I like, and seeing if it'll work well together. I think I know what I want to do now, but long before I commit to buying fish, I want to get opinions and have plenty of time to change plans if it looks like the plan wont work out.

My tank is a 32US gallon long-form, at 36"x12" and 18" high. That is the only detail I have that is not currently changeable. I figure I should do math for 30 gallons, since the gravel takes up some room. I tried to limit myself to about 30" of fish, but since all the fish I like are schoolers, also tried to keep the amount of different types low so I would be able to get multiples of each.

I think this will be my final fish count:

5 lemon tetras (~10" of fish when full grown)
4 of one of the 2" or less varieties of Corydoras (~8")
6 Celestial Pearl Danios (~6")

and after a few months when I know my tank is super-stable and I know what I'm doing (so probably not until feb or march,) I want to add

2 or 3 Ottos (max ~6")

I think I'm going to go for somewhat heavily planted - Lots of hiding room, but not so much that the plants are all you see. I'm thinking for aiming for 30%-40% of the generally tank area obscured by plants. (real plants, I really don't like fake ones.) I intend to keep the tank at about 80 degrees, with a filter that produces a medium or so flow. (nothing severe, but a noticeable current.) I haven't gotten as far as to figure out the specific kind of filter or anything. I still have about a month before I get that far. I'm going to go with a small layer of medium sized gravel for plant roots to dig in to, with about a half inch of sand over that, which should amount to a total of amount an inch of substrate. The tank will get low amounts of natural light (its in a basement, but directly below basement windows, so will not get any direct light but will get some diffused natural light for about six hours a day,) so I'll probably have pretty bright tank lights for the sake of the plants which I will turn off at night. I want to get a little bit of java moss and other low to the ground plant life, as well as some of those red-leaf lily things that I can't remember what they are exactly (but I know my mother used to have them in her tank, and I loved the big broad leaves. I think that, at the time, I read they were invasive or illegal in some areas or something.) and then some medium-length more bushy-type plants for good hiding that grow pretty freely.

I'll probably use a little bit of red slate for landscaping, and so the little ottos can hide easily since I've read that they are sensitive and often nervous.

So, that's the plan. I want to get any incorrect knowledge or bad ideas OUT of my system before I set the plan in motion, so I am really hoping for some input! From what I've read, I think the fish will all get along fairly well and can live in the same environments, but I don't want to find out too late that I am wrong.
 
That sounds like a very nice tank. If I were you, I would defintly stick to those plans.

Oh, and BTW, the 1 inch of fish per gallon of water doesn't really work... you see, imagine putting a 12 inch fish in a 12 gallon tank.. not nice! What really matters is how well you take care of your tank-- if you do weekly, 25 % water changes, you should be totally fine. If you are okay with doing water changes a few times a week, you could even add more fish.

Do you have any idea's for your Corydoras? I am quite fond of the Skunk Corydoras- They are a very beutiful fish, if you want to check them out, here is a link:

http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/corydoras/skunkcory.php

This is a Cory that is good for the newbie:

http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/e_Bronze_Cory_Corydoras_aeneus.php

Also, check out the Corydoras section of the forum. People who have Cory's love there corys, and I'm sure someone will be able to help you :lol:

If you want to go very small, check out the Dwarf and Pygmy Corydoras:

http://www.aqua-fish.net/show.php?h=dwarfcorydoras

http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/e_pygmaeus.php

My all time fave Cory, though it can get a little bit bigger then 2 inches, is :

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species_id=316

Well, I hope that helps!

Zophie :good:
 
Hmm, only a few notes (nothing bad :))

I would aim for 75F not 80F. 80F seems a bit high for the fish you've picked, it shouldn't cause them trouble exactly...but it's cheaper to run it cooler and they may well be happier with is slightly cooler.

You have a very lightly stocked end tank with your current choices... and also are you sure you don't want a main centerpiece fish(s)? Maybe like a pair of dwarf-mid size cichlids...? Or a dwarf gourami... or maybe even a pearl gourami...

If not then with your current fish species listed I'd aim for more like...
10 Lemon tetras
8 Corys
10 Celestial Pearl Danios
5 Ottos

Even after fishless cycling I'm not suggesting you neccessarily buy all of them at the same time. But the fish you've picked are pretty light bioload wise (small thin bodied fish... cept the corys). Plus taking into account their diets...
 
Hmm, only a few notes (nothing bad :))

I would aim for 75F not 80F. 80F seems a bit high for the fish you've picked, it shouldn't cause them trouble exactly...but it's cheaper to run it cooler and they may well be happier with is slightly cooler.

You have a very lightly stocked end tank with your current choices... and also are you sure you don't want a main centerpiece fish(s)? Maybe like a pair of dwarf-mid size cichlids...? Or a dwarf gourami... or maybe even a pearl gourami...

If not then with your current fish species listed I'd aim for more like...
10 Lemon tetras
8 Corys
10 Celestial Pearl Danios
5 Ottos

Even after fishless cycling I'm not suggesting you neccessarily buy all of them at the same time. But the fish you've picked are pretty light bioload wise (small thin bodied fish... cept the corys). Plus taking into account their diets...
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I've been refining my choices since this initial post a month ago :) Right now the plan is for 10 Celestials, 10 Ember Tetras, 2 whiptail cats (I have the specific species written down, but not on me :p the ones i chose get to about 6") and possible a school of 6 to 8 pygmy corydoras. Definitely going for the 'power in numbers,' I've always loves small fish. Still got lots of time left to decide though!

// edit

Also, the planned temp has been moved down to about 77.
 
Is there any reason why you want a low powered filter? I would have thought your fish and plants would rather have a bit more oomph. Maybe something that does 7 X tank volume (maybe 800-900 litres per hour?)
 
Is there any reason why you want a low powered filter? I would have thought your fish and plants would rather have a bit more oomph. Maybe something that does 7 X tank volume (maybe 800-900 litres per hour?)

I don't even remember anymore. Probably something I read about one of the fish I wanted. Again. That post up there was my first post. I've read a lot more since then :p
 

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