Stocking An 80L Tank

[wooch]

hi guys

just finished a long cycling of a new planted 80litre tank

running a fluval u4
and a medium interpet filter of unknown name
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 30ppm

wondering if im good with the plans for stocking it

ideas are:

3 peppered corydoras
2 albino corydoras
7 lemon tetras
2 electric blue rams

any advice/concerns would be greatly appreciated

 

[KittyKat]

Looks like good stock, maybe the following:
6 Peppered Corydoras
10 Lemon tetras
2 Rams

or

4 Peppered Corydoras
4 Albino Corydoras
10 Lemon tetras
2 Rams

That does leave room for more Lemon tetras, but it is a good base to start with. I would advise to keep only one species of Cory from an aesthetic point of view. The Corys do, of course, need sand.

 

[wooch]

thats a relief, i liked the look of sand when i set it up =)

wasnt aware i could have any more

forgot to add i have a single albino sucking loach i plan to move over

 

[Carlovel1]

The Rams need a high temp whereas the corys need a low temperature.
And I would only have 5 Peppered Cories or 5 Albinos but not both.

 

[kizno1]

corys need to be kept in groups of atleast 4. Blue rams would work in a tank this size but they ned higher temps 28-32.
In a 80L if you really want the rams you could go for
2 Electric blue rams (1m 1f)
15 Rummynose tetra
8 Sterbai corys
and have the temp about 28C.

if you dont want to give up the other fish you could go for
8 Peppered corydoras or Albino corydoras
8 Lemon tetras
3 Apistogramma agassizii (1m 1f)

 

[wooch]

would it be possible to swap the corys for the higher temperature ones and keep the lemon and rams?

 

[KittyKat]

Well, it depends on individual set-up.. I personally think that planted tanks can normally take a couple more fish over an unplanted one and a mature tank a few more over a newly-stocked one. I think that is a good stock for the first 3-6 months. After that, you should be able to tell by obsetving the tank, if it will take any more fish.

Hmm, the Loach will probably become a problem.. they can get quite nasty with age and Rams are quite sensitive to disturbances. You can try it, but I have found them to be a pain.

 

[kizno1]

would it be possible to swap the corys for the higher temperature ones and keep the lemon and rams?

Sterbai corys like higher temps and would work well with rams but lemon tetra wont like the temps rams need.

 

[KittyKat]

I would not have Sterbai, because they are larger.

I am sure someone will complain, but I have never had a problem keeping successfully breeding wild and F1 from wild rams in 25-26°C tank long term. It is up to you if you want to try it, but by the sound of things, a lot of people do not have success with lower temperatures.

 

[wooch]

would it be possible to have a happy medium between the tetras and the rams?

the corys im not so bothered about as long as i have something that can disturb the sand at the bottom

 

[kizno1]

I would not have Sterbai, because they are larger.

I am sure someone will complain, but I have never had a problem keeping successfully breeding wild and F1 from wild rams in 25-26°C tank long term. It is up to you if you want to try it, but by the sound of things, a lot of people do not have success with lower temperatures.

yeah but theres enough room for them in a 80L.

How long did they live for? ive heard of a few people breeding blue rams in lower temps but they often only live for about 6months not the 3years + like they should.

would it be possible to have a happy medium between the tetras and the rams?

the corys im not so bothered about as long as i have something that can disturb the sand at the bottom

Not really as albino and bronxe corys like it about 22-25C and electric blue rams like it 28-32C so theres not real middle without upsetting one of them. As rams are eartheater they will help disturb the sand.

 

[KittyKat]

would it be possible to have a happy medium between the tetras and the rams?

Cardinal Tetras maybe? I think their upper range is around 28°C

 

[kizno1]

would it be possible to have a happy medium between the tetras and the rams?

Cardinal Tetras maybe? I think their upper range is around 28°C

And rummy nose tetra they do great at higher temps.

If you want the rams go for something like
2 Electric blue rams (1m 1f)
15 Rummynose tetra or Cardinal tetra
8 Sterbai corys

 

[wooch]

the corys im not so bothered about it was the lemon tetras i would idealy like to keep

if i cant keep the corys ill stock with something else maybe a killifish? for the upper strata or the sterbai corys

i just realy like lemons

 

[KittyKat]

I would not have Sterbai, because they are larger.

yeah but theres enough room for them in a 80L.

Disagree because I regularly see them in the 7+cm range at my LFS.

I am sure someone will complain, but I have never had a problem keeping successfully breeding wild and F1 from wild rams in 25-26°C tank long term. It is up to you if you want to try it, but by the sound of things, a lot of people do not have success with lower temperatures.

How long did they live for? ive heard of a few people breeding blue rams in lower temps but they often only live for about 6months not the 3years + like they should.

The wild pairs lived for 3 years, with one pair making it to 4. The F1 for 4 years on average.