Lack Of Filter Output Causing Nitrite Spikes

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OK, I am having problems with my Fluval 3+ in that it is getting clogged I think and the flow of water through it is dropping massively. This is causing huge nitrite spikes in my tank, and all manner of problems with the fish.

I have the standard filter pads either side, and then in between I have 2 pieces of media from someone else's tank that I initially used to try to speed up cycling (didn't work at all).

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If I have the central media too close to the top, what happens is that the flow becomes very weak within a matter of hours.

There are two ways I have tried to solve this problem. Firstly, moving the top piece (ripped) down about an inch, to allow some free space. This allows the water to flow through more. However, if I move it down too far, I also get nitrite spikes because the bacteria aren't close enough to the flow. Secondly, early on I tried cleaning the media out but obviously this got rid of some of the bacteria and again caused nitrite spikes.

As far as I can tell, most people don't really clean their media much at all and don't have problems with it getting blocked as such. It's like my filter needs unblocking twice a day. A few hours later the output will then be down to about a 3rd of its full power again. We are not talking any large debris in the media, it's literally just the standard brown sludge.

It's as if the flow of water through the filter is concentrated all at the top, and I don't know if this is a design flaw. The rest of the media is pretty much spotless, and it doesn't seem like the water flows through the entire length of the filter. I think my problems might be solved if I could remove the central media, which is quite dense, to allow a good open space of free-flowing water in the centre of the filter. Obviously I can't do this though, because the central ripped piece is very dirty and contains most of the bacteria.

I can tell when the filter isn't pumping out water efficiently because I have the air valve open and instead of a steady flourish of bubbles, they splutter out faintly.

I really need to sort this out, as I'm going on holiday for about 9 days on Friday and am worried I'm going to come back to a tank of dead fish. I already lost one neon, have another one near the surface, have a new dwarf gourami who instantly got sick, another danio on the way out, and the rest of the fish gasping. I came home from work yesterday and the nitrite had spiked to 1.0+ during the day due to the flow of the filter dropping to very weak. I did a massive water change and cleaned the filter pads AGAIN and this morning the flow is back to very weak (I assume the nitrite spiked again over night) and I was late to work having had to clean the pads again.

If anybody has any pics of what their filter pads look like inside, and how often you clean your filter, that would help a lot.
 
that sounds strange Mig, i ran the U2 in an old tank and they run the same way, but never had that problem of most of the rubbish being collected at the top. If all of the sponge isn't being used ya not gonna get full biological filtration intended. I would take out the old media that someone donated as the filter is only tested to work correctly with the media it comes with. If that doesn't work, then I would take it back to the shop and get a new one, keeping the media obviously.
 
But the problem is I can't just take out the old media, as it contains most of the bacteria (seeing as the main media either side of the cannister isn't very dirty due to this problem of everything only collecting at the top).
 
how longs the old media been in there? If its been in there for a while it would have seeded and the ceramic media is the place where your gonna get most colonisation. If it was me i would still take it out as your filter isn't working to its full capacity. Wait and see what others think, but you shouldn't have to be de-clogging it that often.
 
I don't have any ceramic media..?

Just the two very porous pads either side that came with the filter, and the central old media which is quite dense and I think was actually the main media from the old tank. It's been in there for 5 months nearly. Is the filter designed to work OK with a gap in the middle, or should you alwasy have something else in there?

If I remove the central media, I fear it would take a week or two for the bacteria to develop back to the same standard, and this is not something I want to put my fish through, especially not while I'm on holiday. I'm pretty sure I will lose most, if not all, of my fish if I don't get the nitrite clearing.
 
i have a 3+ they work much better with just the outer foam pads i had the same problem with it blocking when i was using the pads that fit in the middle i threw them away and problem solved
 
OK well what I think I will try is firstly remove the bottom one of the other pads, as it's not dirty really. Then I will gradually cut a piece off the ripped one until it's all gone. At least that way I may be able to slowly get rid of it rather than removing all the bacteria.
 
sorry mig, i mis-read, i thought it was a U3, not 3+.
 
I've never used any of these Fluval internals but I do know that having your flow rate drop dramatically is a bad thing...
 
I've never used any of these Fluval internals but I do know that having your flow rate drop dramatically is a bad thing...
Yeah, it's a nightmare. I have had it happen two or three times in the past week and my fish are really suffering. My nitrite just randomly spiked so bad it was showing up as bright purple on the API test. I'm so stressed.
 
if you have had the extra media in for 5 months they will have colonized the sponges now you would be better off taking out the middle media you have in there which is slowing your flow the more flow you can get through the outer sponges the better it is for your bacteria
the extra stuff in the middle is doing more harm than good
 
If you're that worried about your holiday, why not go out and get a couple of small cheap filters, swap the media into the 2 (so there is always at least half of it working...) and keep changing water until your holiday (assuming it doesn'tlevel out before then...)

they wouldn't have to look good in the tank, it would give you more peace of mind while you're away, and would give you moretime to sort it properly after....

and the upside of that, you'd have a few more filters spare for your next tank once you've sorted it...
 
if you have had the extra media in for 5 months they will have colonized the sponges now
Even if my filter sponges look as they do in the diagram I drew above? There is only dirt at the top and the rest is clean.

The thing is, if I move the top middle pad down, I get a small nitrite spike because it's not in the flow at the top of the filter. That suggests to me that there isn't really any bacteria at the bottom of the outer pads. What do you think?
 
if you have had the extra media in for 5 months they will have colonized the sponges now
Even if my filter sponges look as they do in the diagram I drew above? There is only dirt at the top and the rest is clean.

The thing is, if I move the top middle pad down, I get a small nitrite spike because it's not in the flow at the top of the filter. That suggests to me that there isn't really any bacteria at the bottom of the outer pads. What do you think?
my sponges in my 3+ are only dirty at the top but mine works fine without anything in the middle
 

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