Issues sexing German Blue Rams

[Jjc618]

Hey everyone,

Just wondering if I can get some help sexing my 2 new rams. I’ve been looking up online how to sex them but one of them I am stuggling with. I think the latter one is a female however the first one appears to have traits of both male and female rams so I’m struggling to identify her/him. Any help would be appreciated

Not sure about this one:

Think this one is female:

Just want to make sure I have a pair thats all!

 

[Ichthys]

Bottom one is definitely female. Top one could be male. Can you get a picture that’s even more side-on, like the bottom one?

 

[Jjc618]

Sure here’s some more side on views.