I want fish, but none will work in my tank setup.

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I'll be living away from home for 3 years at uni' and would like to have a tank while I'm there with a fish or two in to as a companion since I'm leaving all my animals at home with my 'rents. The uni' says no pets are allowed but if I have a small tank and a cute fish I might be able to get around the rules.
Can anyone think of a fish I can have in a small tank (5~10gal) that will be really cheap and easy to look after? I don't really like Betta very much and so I'd rather not have one. What would the minimum size of tank be for 3 or 5 tetras? How about 1 or 2 guppy fry?
Also I was thinking the other night about cycling, after my disaster at cycling my last tank (ending in partial blindness!) would it be possible to put fry in a tank and allowed them to grow naturally? Surely they produce so little waste that with some amazon sword or something to suck up the nitrate the tank would cycle itself.
 
Cycling with fry is not an option. Use some mature filter media from your old tank or an LFS (transport it just as you would a fish in a bag of tank water) to kick-start the cycle. You'll need to put it in your new tank's filter and add fish within 2 hours if you want to avoid starving the bacteria though.

There's plenty of choices but if you're after something easy to look after with little maintainance I'd avoid tetras or any other schooling fish as it would mean you'd need more of the fish which would make your tank fully, if not over, stocked so you'd realy need to be careful not to slack on maintainance. I'd also avoid guppies which can be fragile due to over-breeding.

Dwarf puffers are an option but aren't particularly hardy. You could keep 2 in a 10 or 1 in a 5 but you'd want to plant heavily, feed small snails occasionaly and shouldn't add anything else to the tank.

3 FEMALE platies would be a hardy option for a 10 gallon - don't mix sexes as they'll have fry and don't get all males as they'll get a little aggressive.

Similarly, another livebearer, mosquito fish (females) - that is heterandria formosa - NOT the more aggressive and larger gambusia affinis - would also work. They only get to about (just under actualy) 1" so you could fit up to 7-9 comfortably. They do fine in slightly lower temps as well so don't require a heater if it doesn't get too cold. Watch that, as they are so small, the filter isn't liable to suck them up.

Endler's are hardier than guppies but not as hardy as either platies or mosquito fish. Still, they make a good choice as they are colorful and very small. With these, either go for a group of 4-5 MALES ONLY or 3-4 FEMALES ONLY. Females grow larger than males which is why I suggested the different numbers. Watch that you aren't getting guppy x endler hybrids (not because they are hybrids but because they tend to be heavily line bred - making them weaker).

Do you like gouramies? Honey gouramies (colisa chuna/sota) are quite hardy. A trio (1 male, 2 females) would work in a 10 gallon but provide quite a few hiding places - floating plants or tall rooted plants are appreciated but they need not be real. If you can't get a 10, you could keep a single male in a relatively heavily planted 5 gallon - just make sure of the sex as females like company and are not territorial so a 5's too small for them. Sparkling gouramies would also work in a 10 but are more fragile. If you went for just a single one, a 10 gallon could also house a paradisefish provided you were careful to decorate the tank quite heavily and vary the diet - more for stimulation than for health reasons as these are another remarkably hardy species that can even live without a heater (or even without a filter) if necessary (obviously it's best to provide them with heating if temperatures drop below 68 deg F though - at night or in the winter for example).

There's lots of tiny killies (like clowns) that work well in even a 5 gallon. Not all work and not all are hardy. Another I like, if you get a 10, is the american-flag fish. A pair or trio would be extremely entertaining if you provide plenty of hiding places AND they have the added benefit of being incredibly hardy and low-maintainance, non-picky, undemanding fish.

Alternatively, you could try keeping some shrimp or apple snails or another small freshwater invertabrate. You'd be surprised, when it comes to shrimp, how many different types there are - not just your typical ghost shrimp but vibrantly colored relatives and also giant filter-feeding species. Take a look here: http://www.petshrimp.com/index.html
Apple snails are also wonderful in that you can breed them easily and they come in all sorts of lovely colors. There's other ornamental snails out there as well. The downside to snails is that they produce quite a lot of waste and, apple snails in particular, get to about the size of your fist - making a 5 gallon rather small for several.
 
Hi Invader675 :)

Do you like aquatic frogs? :unsure: African Dwarf Frogs are something to consider then.

These little fellows are popular with many dorm dwellers because they are so cute, they take up very little space, and their tanks are small enough to be entirely portable during school breaks.

Several of them could live very, very comfortably in a 5 gallon tank as long as it has a secure lid. They do not need filters or even heaters if the room is in the comfort range. When you need to move it home or back to college, just drop the water to a low level, put the tank in the car and go. When you get to your destination, just refill it with dechlorinated water and you are all set.

Here's a link with lots of information about them:

http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=18252

It would be possible for you to keep one or possibly 2 of the bigger African Clawed Frogs in a 10 gallon under similar conditions, but it would be harder to move it back and forth when necessary. :D
 
If you could get the 10 gallon, you will have more options and a 10 gallon really doesn't take up much hore room that a 5. You could easily put 5 or 6 tetras in a 10 gallon. I love bleeding heart tetras. I don't have any or know how hardy they are though. Congos are also pretty and are a little bigger than the average tetra. Once again, I'm not sure about their hardiness. Sylvia mentioned the american flag fish. They are really pretty. My son has a pair of them. They also will eat most types of algae so that is an added plus. One possible down side to them if you have live plants is that they will eat them. I have to regularly give my son more anacharis as they keep his eaten down to nothing but a stem.

For a 5 gallon, you are pretty limited. Bettas (I know you said you didn't like them) or maybe the frogs that Inchworm mentioned. I'm not much of a frog person but they may work for you. I do love shrimp but they're not very colorful unless you can find some cherry red shrimp. I have never been able to find those except online though.
 
How do you feel about cichlid shell dwellers? I have 3 in a 15 gallon, and they're lamprologus multifasciatus. They'll breed so you might even be able to make some store credit to fund feeding them
 
You know, they kind of intrest me? Is there more straightforword information?

Edit: I mean on the frogs...I have an emptie 5G that I could do that with...
 
I would be very careful with uni and pets- i have known 5 friends who have had either fish or some sort of other small animal and have had to rehome them after their uni found out about them. True, some people can get away with it, but taking pets of any sort to uni where they aern't allowed is not a very responsable action especially if you have to rehome them within a limited amount of time and can't.
If you rent your own place or in shared accomodation though all that can change ;) .
I don't mean to sound negative but you do have to make sacrifices if you want to go to uni.
 
Hi Ethos :)

If you look at the link I put in my post, you will find more links to quite a few different frog sites. And you can always make a thread in our Invertebrates and Amphibians forum if you have any more questions. :D
 
Your uni doesn't even allow fish? Some allow "small fish", but I suppose some won't even let you have that. If you think you can get away with it I'd go for a dwarf puffer in a 5 gallon, they're very personable and would feel more like a "real pet" than guppies in my opinion... but then again, I don't find guppies to be the brightest of things.
If your uni doesn't allow pets of any kind but you really want one, then even though you don't like them a betta would be the best choice, I think... you could keep it in a 1 gallon and it could be easily hidden during inspection. For example, you could use and EXTREMELY well-rinsed opaque shampoo bottle to cleverly hide the fish :shifty:
Not that I'm trying to push bettas or anything, but what is it about them that you don't like? They come in short-finned varieties too :hey:
 
Wow, I never knew there were so many types of fish that would fit in such a small tank! If only more people knew there was more out there than a gold fish :/. Dwarf Puffers look really sweet and there is some good info' out about them, the ciclids also sound interesting.
You're right about it being a bad idea at uni' though, I'll talk to the warden first and make sure everything is alright. I can get my parents to post me some filter media from my current tank when/if I decide on a tank setup so hopefully I can avoid losing my other eye!
I hope nobody is offended that I don't like Betta, I know how popular they are here! I think a good way to describe them is "the deva of the ocean"! They remind me alot of Lilly Savage or Dame Edna! *runs away before being lynch mobbed*
Thanks for all the help! I'll let you all know how it goes.
 
dont like betta's?

how about a dwarf gourami and 3 corys in a 7.5 gal?

thats what i have next to my bed and my gourami is in my display pick. they r going sweet. i need to clean the algae from the tank tho. damn uni assignments....

i killed a spotted cory due to over feeding the other week, nitrites went through the roof so that just proves how hardy dwarf gourami's are. the good news is my fish cost in total less than $20 australian. the most expensive part (including tank and lights as a kit) was the test kits haha.
 
sorry for this thread back to life
i say you get african dwarf frogs theyre rite lil characters and easy to look after (cheap to) dwarf puffers are cool but are more expensive to setup an look after yove got to sort your filter an stuff get it brackish etc wheras african dwarf frogs dont even need a filter dependin on the temparature of the room they mite not even need a heater then theirs food puffers need snails an other tuff things whereas african dwarf frogs jus need blooodworm live or froze :cool:
 
Synirr said:
Not that I'm trying to push bettas or anything, but what is it about them that you don't like? They come in short-finned varieties too :hey:
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Invader675 said:
Can anyone think of a fish I can have in a small tank (5~10gal) that will be really cheap and easy to look after?
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I do recommend a 5G with a dwarf puffer as well, because they have great personalities. However, I do have to mention they are not really classed ' easy to look after '. They need perfect water for them to survive in, which means at least 2 water changes a week (then again, 2 gallons twice a week will take you no longer than 10 mins using a cup really). It's also often difficult to get them to accept frozen foods, and if you're very unlucky you might never get to the point of frozen foods. They will need meaty foods for their diet, bloodworms being their main diet. No flakes or algae tabs for them at all. You'll also need to get them snails say, twice a month to keep it's teeth worn down.

Adding a dwarf puffer to a tank that hasn't cycled yet means it will definatly not survive. Adding it to a freshly cycled tank will lower it's chances of surviving (they're really sensitive and pretty much require a mature set up ) but is do-able.
 

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