Its the day I clean out Chops's tank, although he is loads better and only nudges my hand I have an added problem tonight, the Rotkeils have spawned for the first time in this tank, going to get attacked from them too 

wow, the rotkeils must give a strong bite! my male krib hurts when he bites me, and he's tiny compared to rotkeils.![]()
They do come quite sharp and the shape of the mouth they can grab skin quite easily. I actually spoke too soon, the gravel vac was easy, it was putting the glass sliders back on was the problem, Chops got me 3 timesfirst time in a couple of weeks he has actually launched out of the tank to get me.
Bit of a random tag-on to this thread, but someone has posted an ad in the classified about possibly selling 2 or 3 Rio400 tank setups (think it was you, star4, who mentioned you were on the hunt for one)...
http/www.fishforum...only-right-now/