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Tempestuousfury

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Anyone have punnet squares or ratios of different crosses of tail types?

Namely, I am interested in crosses between two crowntails and a crowntail and veiltail, though other people might find other combinations interesting...
 
Ask Synirr, she's the genetics freak :p But, in a nutshell, crowning and short tailed are both reccesive, so a CTxCT would generally be 100% CT and a CTxVT would be all VTs, with a slight degree of combing.
 
Ask Synirr, she's the genetics freak :p
:lol: I'm flattered :*)
OohFeeshy is absolutely right about those crosses. Tempestuousfury, do you know how to do punnet squares? If so, it's easy to figure out tail type combos if you know that long finnage is dominant, everything else is recessive :nod:. You can also have any combination, like CT VT, DT plakat, etc, except for having long finned plakats of course, lol.
 
I was just about to ask about the hetero vs. homozygous-ness before reading the last post.

Also, there is also the issue of co-dominance and whatnot.

As for punnet squares, I can do them, but it would be best if I had an expert opinion, esp. when it came to two recessive traits I wanted to breed.
 
Heck, if anyone can suggest a site or a book, I'd be willing to get the info myself and relay it. :p

So many terms I've forgotten since I took AP bio. *shakes head*
 
Hehe, let's see here...

Andreeuh -- Both traits are recessive, so you'd get a fish that is neither CT or DT. All offspring would be single tail with various degrees of combing, unless the CT carried a DT gene or the DT carried a CT gene, which is unlikely since these tail types are not commonly mixed by breeders.

BettaBum873 -- Heterozygosity and homozygosity have little to do with whether a trait is dominant or not. If the trait is dominant, that trait will be expressed whether the fish is heterozygous (Dd) or homozygous (DD). However, if it is recessive, it will only be expressed if the fish is homozygous (dd), so a fish heterozygous for DT (Dd) would be a single tailed fish.

Do you mean alleles, or loci? A locus is where a trait is located on the chromosome, an allele is a variation of that trait. For example, long-finned and plakat are different alleles at the same locus so you cannot have a fish with medium length fins if you breed a long-finned fish to a plakat as it is a simple dominant-recessive relationship, but CT and DT traits are on different loci so you can have a CT DT. The only finnage trait controlled by multiple loci is caudal spread (as in the difference between a VT and a HM,) so it is not a Mendelian trait where you can just do a punnet square.

Tempestuousfury -- Co-dominance isn't an issue with fin types, but incomplete dominance is with the CT trait, in my opinion, because fish heterozygous for the trait (Cc) are often combtail.

Here are a few good links on betta genetics :) :
http://www.bettas-jimsonnier.com/genetics.htm

http://www.bettysplendens.com/articles/catview.asp?catid=864

http://www.bubblenest.net/geneticsymbols.html
 
Haha, I'm taking bio over again (this is too nerdy: because I loved it the first time in H.S. so I thought, why not in college?) and this is the exact chapter we're on--genetics. I love this stuff. Haha, it's like a mini review--now I don't have to study for the quiz! ;)
 
Tempestuousfury -- Co-dominance isn't an issue with fin types, but incomplete dominance is with the CT trait, in my opinion, because fish heterozygous for the trait (Cc) are often combtail.

Yepperz. I have a fish that one parent was CT and the other was HM, and he is a combtail.
 
OOH. Yay for links. ^_^

As for you being a nerd, I suppose you are. But, I enjoyed the zoology aspect of AP Bio, so I took zoology and though I have enough credits to skip 2 years of bio, I'll no doubt take it again to make sure I have a better grasp of everything. :p

http://www.bubblenest.net/geneticsymbols.html
Synirr, this site won't let me scroll down, do you get this problem?
 
No, it lets me scroll. What browser are you using?
 
I can scroll is Internet Explorer... maybe I'll just save the chart and post it here, no?

ps- nope, just tried...hm maybe later--no time now!
 

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