Another Cycling Question

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So I've just checked my water params after that big water change the other day and the ammonia is 0, the nitrite is 0.50ppm. I've totally lost where I am in the cycle now and have no idea how much ammonia I should add now? Does anyone have any ideas? :)
 
Did you add the one-third-of-3ppm dose of ammonia (called the maintenance dose) after the water change?
 
If you did, TTA's instructions say
 
After the maintenance feeding, whenever you test and ammonia is .25 ppm or lower and nitrite is clearly under 1 ppm, it is time to add a full ammonia dose again and test in 24 hours.
 
Your readings of ammonia 0 nitrite 0.5 fit this condition, so add a full 3ppm dose. Then test after 24 hours.
If they are both zero after the 24 hours, you are cycled.
If one or both are not zero, ask what to do.
 
 
But if you did not add any ammonia after the water change, I'm not sure. Maybe add the maintenance dose of one-third-of-3ppm amount of ammonia and see what the readings are tomorrow.
 
I didn't add any ammonia straight after the water change. I have added 1/3 of the amount. I'll test it again tomorrow morning. Again, thanks for your help!
 
Remember, cycling is not something that works on a strict timetable. It is variable. One person has the initial 3 ppm of ammonia gone in a week and for another it takes two.
 
The biggest issue for folks new to cycling is stalling or killing the cycle. Unknowingly people turn a 5 week (+/-) process into one that can last months. So what I tried to do with the current cycling guide is to prevent the two most common problems encountered during cycling which are both caused by the same thing- adding too much ammonia. If ammonia gets too high it will kill the cycle by harming the bacteria. Given all the problems new fish keepers have to deal with, my goal was to prevent the over dosing of ammonia. The second, and perhaps greater problem is having too much nitrite. This will also harm the bacteria or even kill them.
 
It is easy to prevent adding too much ammonia. You dose less. And you can make sure of the ammonia levels easily- test. The API ammonia kit goes up to 8 ppm, way more than one should ever have in a fishless cycle. The problem is the nitrite. The API kit does not read high enough. Nitrite should top at a much higher level than the kit can show. But if the kit can't read the level, one is in the dark in terms of knowing where nitrite levels really are.
 
One can do diluted testing for nitrite, but the average beginner will, more often than not, get things wrong and produce a reading that is useless. Besides, why make things much more complicated than they actually need to be? What I did was to design the fishless cycling method to make it impossible to end up with too much nitrite as long as the directions are followed. This meant the shortcoming of the nitrite test is made irrelevant.
 
But the above will only work if one follows the directions pretty much as written. They have even been designed to provide a bit of wiggle room to make mistakes. Suppose one measured wrong and was actually adding 4 ppm of ammonia instead of the suggested 3, this should not kill things. The process should work pretty much the same despite this. But if the method started at a 4 ppm ammonia addition instead of 3, and one made a mistake by adding too much ammonia, that would likely mess up the cycle. And just as the amount of the ammonia doses added were designed to prevent overdosing, so also was the dosing schedule. It was designed to prevent any accidental build up of nitrite due to having added too much ammonia.
 
The rest is pretty easy to keep up- oxygenate the water (i.e. run a decent filter), monitor the pH so it doesn't fall through the floor and make sure the KH is enough to provide the needed inorganic carbon. In most cases, these three things should normally not be an issue, but they could be in some cases, so folks should be aware of them.
 
And there is one final protection built into the cycling method, and that is to insure, when done, one does not try to overstock. Which is why the directions say you can stock fully to an average fish load for your size tank. Folks are told not to try to stock heavily or to overstock at the outset. This should prevent any mini-spikes from over loading the new tank. But the fact is if one added a few fish to many the tank should catch up to the added load quite fast.
 
In short, the cycling method was designed to eliminate as much potential for mistakes as possible. It is why the directions give test results levels based on one's using an API kit or one similar and not in the lab scales used by researchers. This is the one used by more members here than any other.
 
There is only one thing that can not be done to make the whole process a bit easier, and that is the interpretation of the color of test results. This is a subjective process. In a lab setting, where accuracy is critical, the color reading is done by a digital reader rather than a human eye.
 
So I've just tested my water and there is 0ppm ammonia and around 2ppm nitrite. I'm guessing I don't add anymore ammonia until the nitrite is clearly under 1ppm? :)
It was 1ppm ammonia I added the other day after the water change :)
Sorry to be a bother, I just don't want to mess up the cycle again
 
 
After the maintenance feeding, whenever you test and ammonia is .25 ppm or lower and nitrite is clearly under 1 ppm, it is time to add a full ammonia dose again and test in 24 hours.
 
You are close. the ammonia at 0 is .25 or lower. The nitrite at 2 ppm is almost there. It needs to drop just a bit and you will be ready to add that full dose. Bear in mind that the test kit directions will tell you when testing if the color appears to be between two levels to read it as the higher level. This is great when fish are involved or when the upper number is one that represents a danger zone. However, here, if the the color puts the level between the .5 and the 1.0 ppm, it means you are clearly under 1.0. And that means it's time to do the 3 ppm dose.
 
Thanks TwoTank, I'm back on track now. The nitrite was under 1ppm and ammonia was 0ppm today so I've added 3ppm and will test in 24hours. Thanks for everyone's help and patience with this! I really appreciate it :)
 

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