Added Two New Fish On Sunday, One Died Next Day.

[ivymike]

Hi Folks, am new to the hobby and really enjoying it, but have had my first upset yesterday so would really appreciate some advice.

Have a Juwel Rekord 60 tank.. which I've been running since start of Jan. Tetra test 6-1 says all is OK. Temp is at 25 deg C. Cycle 10% of the tank once a week.

Currently stocked with

4x Zebrafish
4x White Mountain Cloud Minnows
2x Angelfish
2x Rummy Nosed Tetras

All the above seem happy and healthy. Tetras have nice red noses which I'm told is a good indicator of tank health.

On Sunday we added the following.

1x Yo-yo loach
1x Leopard Cory

Noticed on Monday morning that the Yoyo was behaving strangely, i.e. lying on it's side, erratic breathing. By late afternoon it was dead. Very sad.

Introduced it carefully to the tank on Sunday afternoon, seemed OK. It fed later that evening. All looked fine.

Guess some fish just die when transferred. But am now wondering if there is anything else I should be checking for re. tank health?

Does this sometimes just happen when you intorduce a new fish to the tank?

Would hate for any others to go the same way. Any advice much appreciated - thanks.

 

[tom16]

Is the tetra test 6-1 paper based tests or liquid

 

[fatheadminnow]

Hi Folks, am new to the hobby and really enjoying it, but have had my first upset yesterday so would really appreciate some advice.

Have a Juwel Rekord 60 tank.. which I've been running since start of Jan. Tetra test 6-1 says all is OK. Temp is at 25 deg C. Cycle 10% of the tank once a week.

Currently stocked with

4x Zebrafish
4x White Mountain Cloud Minnows
2x Angelfish
2x Rummy Nosed Tetras

All the above seem happy and healthy. Tetras have nice red noses which I'm told is a good indicator of tank health.

On Sunday we added the following.

1x Yo-yo loach
1x Leopard Cory

Noticed on Monday morning that the Yoyo was behaving strangely, i.e. lying on it's side, erratic breathing. By late afternoon it was dead. Very sad.

Introduced it carefully to the tank on Sunday afternoon, seemed OK. It fed later that evening. All looked fine.

Guess some fish just die when transferred. But am now wondering if there is anything else I should be checking for re. tank health?

Does this sometimes just happen when you intorduce a new fish to the tank?

Would hate for any others to go the same way. Any advice much appreciated - thanks.

to TFF!

It sounds like you have either high ammonia or nitrite in your tank, which is toxic to fish and can kill them!

Did you cycle your tank before putting fish in your tank?

Is the test kit strips, or liquid?

What are your water stats?

If you give us your water stats, we will then be able to further asses your problem.

Check this link out to learn about "how to cycle a tank."

-FHM

 

[ivymike]

Is the tetra test 6-1 paper based tests or liquid

Hi, it's the paper based ones. Although, I did also take a water sample to local supplier before starting to add new fish 1 month ago (angels, tetras). They tested too and said it was ok.

 

[tom16]

If i was you i would investe in a liquid test kit like the API Freshwater master kit.

They are a lot more accurate.

 

[ivymike]

Is the tetra test 6-1 paper based tests or liquid

Hi, it's the paper based ones. Although, I did also take a water sample to local supplier before starting to add new fish 1 month ago (angels, tetras). They tested too and said it was ok.

forgot to add, am cycling 10% once per week as levels seem to have settled nicely (at least according to the tetra paper tests). Guess I'm about to be told that those are not the best tests and liquid would be preferable? Thanks.

 

[fatheadminnow]

Is the tetra test 6-1 paper based tests or liquid

Hi, it's the paper based ones. Although, I did also take a water sample to local supplier before starting to add new fish 1 month ago (angels, tetras). They tested too and said it was ok.

I would go out and purchase a liquid base test kit, as the strip test kits are inaccurate.

Also, I believe strip test kits do not test for ammonia.

It is very important to monitor your water parameters, even after your tank is running, this way you will know if everything is okay.

You probably have either ammonia or nitrite present in your tank, in an amount higher than .25ppm, which can harm/kill fish.

Is the tetra test 6-1 paper based tests or liquid

Hi, it's the paper based ones. Although, I did also take a water sample to local supplier before starting to add new fish 1 month ago (angels, tetras). They tested too and said it was ok.

forgot to add, am cycling 10% once per week as levels seem to have settled nicely (at least according to the tetra paper tests). Guess I'm about to be told that those are not the best tests and liquid would be preferable? Thanks.

Can you explain what you mean by cycling 10% once per week?

Do you mean you are doing 10% water change per week?

Thanks
-FHM

 

[ivymike]

Is the tetra test 6-1 paper based tests or liquid

Hi, it's the paper based ones. Although, I did also take a water sample to local supplier before starting to add new fish 1 month ago (angels, tetras). They tested too and said it was ok.

I would go out and purchase a liquid base test kit, as the strip test kits are inaccurate.

Also, I believe strip test kits do not test for ammonia.

It is very important to monitor your water parameters, even after your tank is running, this way you will know if everything is okay.

You probably have either ammonia or nitrite present in your tank, in an amount higher than .25ppm, which can harm/kill fish.

-FHM

FHM, thanks. will go buy a better test kit. Am trying my best to get it all correct, but there is a lot to learn, which is of course part of the appeal.

 

[fatheadminnow]

Is the tetra test 6-1 paper based tests or liquid

Hi, it's the paper based ones. Although, I did also take a water sample to local supplier before starting to add new fish 1 month ago (angels, tetras). They tested too and said it was ok.

I would go out and purchase a liquid base test kit, as the strip test kits are inaccurate.

Also, I believe strip test kits do not test for ammonia.

It is very important to monitor your water parameters, even after your tank is running, this way you will know if everything is okay.

You probably have either ammonia or nitrite present in your tank, in an amount higher than .25ppm, which can harm/kill fish.

-FHM

FHM, thanks. will go buy a better test kit. Am trying my best to get it all correct, but there is a lot to learn, which is of course part of the appeal.

Yup, it is just a learning process.

I would get a API Freshwater Master Test Kit, that is what I and a lot of other people on here use, and you will not be disappointed.

So go get a liquid test kit, test the water for Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, and pH.

Then post your results on here, and we will take a look at the results, and make decisions according to the results.

-FHM

 

[tom16]

Yes very, very good test kit the API one.

 

[ivymike]

Is the tetra test 6-1 paper based tests or liquid

Hi, it's the paper based ones. Although, I did also take a water sample to local supplier before starting to add new fish 1 month ago (angels, tetras). They tested too and said it was ok.

I would go out and purchase a liquid base test kit, as the strip test kits are inaccurate.

Also, I believe strip test kits do not test for ammonia.

It is very important to monitor your water parameters, even after your tank is running, this way you will know if everything is okay.

You probably have either ammonia or nitrite present in your tank, in an amount higher than .25ppm, which can harm/kill fish.

-FHM

For info, the Tetratest paper based 6in1 results are

NO3 (mg/l) 25
NO2 (mg/l) 0
GH 8.d
KH 10.d
pH 8.0
Cl2 (mg/l) 0

But, will get the liquid test and recheck. Thanks.


FHM, thanks. will go buy a better test kit. Am trying my best to get it all correct, but there is a lot to learn, which is of course part of the appeal.

Yup, it is just a learning process.

I would get a API Freshwater Master Test Kit, that is what I and a lot of other people on here use, and you will not be disappointed.

So go get a liquid test kit, test the water for Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, and pH.

Then post your results on here, and we will take a look at the results, and make decisions according to the results.

-FHM

Apologies, when I said "cycling 10% per week", meant water change of 10% per week. With de-chlorinator used at that time for new water.

 

[vinylman]

In a Rekord 60, I'd be changing at least double what you are now. Also, it's far too small to keep the Angels; they'll need a tank at least 16'' tall. See if the shop will take them back and swap them for four or five Rummynoses, as they're shoaling fish that do best in a group.

 

[ivymike]

In a Rekord 60, I'd be changing at least double what you are now. Also, it's far too small to keep the Angels; they'll need a tank at least 16'' tall. See if the shop will take them back and swap them for four or five Rummynoses, as they're shoaling fish that do best in a group.

Thanks, appreciate the advice, will do.

 

[Davo86]

TBH I'd say the botia was most likely unwell when you purchased it, These fish are super hardy IME and if Rummynoses, which are a super sensitive species are thriving in the tank, (strong vivid colours) then I'd guess that it isn't a water quality issue.

were there any symptoms that the botia showed before it died? apart from the lying on its side and breathing quickly, which is not unusual for botias (providing there is no ammonia and a high level of o2 in the tank)

 

[ivymike]

TBH I'd say the botia was most likely unwell when you purchased it, These fish are super hardy IME and if Rummynoses, which are a super sensitive species are thriving in the tank, (strong vivid colours) then I'd guess that it isn't a water quality issue.

were there any symptoms that the botia showed before it died? apart from the lying on its side and breathing quickly, which is not unusual for botias (providing there is no ammonia and a high level of o2 in the tank)

Hi. Thanks. Umm. It would dart around madly, then stop and stay still for quite some time. Whether that's unusual or not I do not know. Seemed to like forcing itself into the smallest of hiding places. Wondered if it had got stuck a couple of times in one place. But then would reappear. Aside from that no observations that I'd say were unusual.