I was reading at Liveaquaria.com about Koi and it said the minimun tank require ment was 1000G! That cant be right! I wanna keep 3 koi in a 450G tank, and that should be alright, and have a bit of room to move around! What were they thinking by 1000gs?
1,000 GALLONS?!?!?
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willtang3000
Fish Herder
well 1000g will get them to grow to well lets say 2 metre max and most people choose to do that so they make fortunes but its not exactly vital that you keep them in 1000g
That is right. You have to consider several things about Koi
-Massive waste producers
-Will reach 30"+
-Socail fish, should be kept with other Koi
-High oxygen requirement
-Cosntantly active
All of this means they require a large body of water. Most Koi keepers will also keep their Koi outside where they are exposed to the elements and varying temperatures, which means they require a deep pond to survive and keep warm. Its this depth that gives the rise to the 1000 gallon rule. One thousand gallons is accurate for fish being kept outdoors in a group of five or more. But when the fish are inside with a constant temperature, oxygen concentration and very good filtration the rules can be bent slightly, I would give it a go but be prepared to provide a larger home as they grow, some can exceed 30" with ease.
Don't forget these fish fetch high prices so its in most Koi keepers interest to provide them with the best home, once again giving rise to the suggested 1000 galllons.
-Massive waste producers
-Will reach 30"+
-Socail fish, should be kept with other Koi
-High oxygen requirement
-Cosntantly active
All of this means they require a large body of water. Most Koi keepers will also keep their Koi outside where they are exposed to the elements and varying temperatures, which means they require a deep pond to survive and keep warm. Its this depth that gives the rise to the 1000 gallon rule. One thousand gallons is accurate for fish being kept outdoors in a group of five or more. But when the fish are inside with a constant temperature, oxygen concentration and very good filtration the rules can be bent slightly, I would give it a go but be prepared to provide a larger home as they grow, some can exceed 30" with ease.
Don't forget these fish fetch high prices so its in most Koi keepers interest to provide them with the best home, once again giving rise to the suggested 1000 galllons.
So I could have 450Gs as a permanent housing thing?
I want only 3-4 koi, but the have to be able to survive outside for many months in the 10 and below degrese F area.....so, I'd need a cover, a heater and a good filter....
I want only 3-4 koi, but the have to be able to survive outside for many months in the 10 and below degrese F area.....so, I'd need a cover, a heater and a good filter....
bribones
Fishaholic
your first post says tank ? for a pond 6x4 x3 ft deep will give you roughly your 448.5 UK gallons and this is ok for koi if you only want 4-5 ,in the winter i just add plastic sheeting to the top to protect the pond from the worst of the elements ,bear in mind a raised pond might need a heater if your temps drop to below freezing
Opcn
Big fish
I think you should spring the 40 or so bucks apeice for some good quality 3-5 inch koi, maybe 5-6 of them, then sell off the biggest one every year or two and buy a new small one, thatway the big koi get better homes and you always have beautiful fish to look at, if you skimp and buy cheep koi you may not be able to find anyone willing to buy them at the larger size for a price worthy of them, I'll take this opportunity to remind you that koi are edible 
ecto1
Fish Fanatic
Actually, koi can survive in outdoor ponds during Minnesota winters, as long as you don't let the surface of the pond freeze over. The pond should also be at least 3 feet deep in one area.
There is a garden shop in Excelsior that built the pond at my last house, and we got our koi from there. When it got cold in the winter, we'd take our koi back to the garden shop and in the spring they'd give us our koi back.
There is a garden shop in Excelsior that built the pond at my last house, and we got our koi from there. When it got cold in the winter, we'd take our koi back to the garden shop and in the spring they'd give us our koi back.
vantgE
I know you agree
Don't buy koi just too sell when there bigger some catch high prices but you need to be in tune with the whole koi busness and have some good quaility specimens, I know that every LFS in my city has a tiny little koi pond with about 20 in there because people can't care for them don't think about more then one in a 450gallon and I myself sure wouldn't do anything less then 1600 for two,
Well, that because you most likely have a lawn you can use.
I live in a Gated community, wher I cant put anything in my yard permanently without the whole neighbor hood agreeing to do it (ie a fence, adding a tree, ect)
I figure if I add a little pond thingy, I can get away with it.
I live in a Gated community, wher I cant put anything in my yard permanently without the whole neighbor hood agreeing to do it (ie a fence, adding a tree, ect)
I figure if I add a little pond thingy, I can get away with it.
Opcn
Big fish
Ethos, why don't you go ask them I'll bet they would like a nice koi pond. relaxing and all that good stuff.
VantagE there are plenty of people who don't know koi that well but will buy a big pretty koi for a pretty penny.
VantagE there are plenty of people who don't know koi that well but will buy a big pretty koi for a pretty penny.
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