Senegal Bichir Feeding

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Hi' All,

I've always read these grow fast i've had mine about 2months and have barely noticed any size increase it's about 3inch is this normal? I see it eating just wondering if its not getting enough?
 
what are you feeding it, mine eats like a horse....

try Hikari carnivore pellets, sand eel other meaty foods.
 
Growth in fish is determined by many factors both physiological and environmental.Factors such as genetics,sex,diet,water conditions,age, Maturity,Temp etc.All of this can impact total growth for a given year by an individual fish.Fish in captivity are on a very different water change and diet schedule that those in the wild.One they get 100% waterchanges daily and two they forage at will.They also have an open ability to select optimal habitat.
In captivity they do not receive the same conditions.We generally feed our fish in a manner best described as"stuff and starve".They receive a set amount of food and that's it.This does impact growth.Small bodies of water are also more likely to concentrate wastes much quicker.I do not care how much filtration you have or how many waterchanges you do a week, you can not replicate natural water conditions in captivity.Co-habitation with other fish in a small system also impacts the fishes growth through psychological stress as well as competition for food and living space.

To help your fish reach its maximum growth rate and potential size try the following.

GENETICS
Theres not a lot you can do here but hope for the best.Unfortunatly with farming taking place theres no telling how good the gene pool is especially with the manipulating of the gene pool they are doing creating short bodies,albinos etc.if the parents are on the smaller side of bichir size odds are the young
will be smaller than the normal 10-12 inches and genetics can influence rate of growth as well.

Temperature
Fish depend on their enviroment to supply them with heat.To this end their metabolism is heat dependent the cooler the water the slower the metabolism
and the warmer the water the faster the metabolism.The faster the metabolism is the faster food is processed and made available for lets say growth
as well as digestion etc.etc.The natural tempurature ranges from mid 70'sF to mid 80'sF so keep the tempurature in low to mid 80's to increase the metabolism rate.

WATER CONDITIONS
Establish and maintain a waterchange schedule this means 10% minimum do do this to remove the nitrates but also the other compounds that are
not dealt with thru biological filtration such as urea,inorganic salts,organic compounds including,protiens,hormones,and metabolites

PHOTOPERIOD
Fish like most animals need fairly normal periods of light and dark 8 hours minimum to 12 hours maximum of light good use a timer if you
need to but keep the fairly constant.Note here you can adjust the photoperiod to mimic nature.

SEX
Female polypterids generally grow bigger than males

DIET
Nutrition-Quanity and quality which is one reason i suggest adding a good quality pellet to a varied diet this insures they get they needed vitamins.Several small meals thru the day are better than 1-2 big meals,smaller meals allows them to scavage thru the day as they would in the wild(see primer for food & nutritional information).

TANKMATES
Avoid species that are generalized as agressive.Generally fish named after prizefighters,satan and criminals should be avoided.Polypterids are usually
slow to eat and agressive fish can often outcompete them

GROWOUT TANKS
consider using a growout tank for very young(small) bichirs a ten gallon is good for this as it allows them to exercise
and makes finding food stuffs easier so they can use the energy for growth then move them to a bigger tank when they get about 7 inches

The real question about growth is since we are supposed to be providing them optimum conditions why they don't necessarily grow larger?

FEEDING & NUTRITION
Now that you have a bichir what does it eat? In their natural habitat bichirs normally eat small fish,various insect larvae and invertabrates.Bichirs are generaly non agressive ambush predators but also oppurtunistic scavengers.Objects to big to be consumed whole are often "deathrolled" till
small parts are twisted and ripped off the carcass.The key here is to balance the diet thru a variety
of foods with an eye on total nutrition.A varied diet is a good diet for your fish and yourself.
Now then what can we feed them? You actually have several options and They will be listed below
The freezer at your local fish store is a smorgasboard of foods which should include
silversides or lancefish
mysis shrimp
brine shrimp
krill
bloodworms
tubifex worms
squid
beefheart
Simply thaw and feed


Your local market can be a great source of foods check the seafood section of the freezer
You can use just about any foods you find there including
mussels
shrimp
most fish filets (avoid salmon i think its to oily)

Available at the butcher counter or they should be able to order it for you
beefheart
and yes chicken gizzards
to prepare the above cut it into strips and remove any fat you can find
fish do not digest mammialian fat well

Live foods include
some frog species(some frogs release a nasty chemical when bitten)
tadpoles
African dwarf frogs are safe and part of the natural diet
ghost shrimp
earthworms
mealworms feed only the recently shed(white) ones the chiton in the exoskeleton
can be hard to digest and in some can result in intestinal blockages.
There is really no reason to feeders except as the ocassional treat.
Various live fish and fry can be used for foods.Caution here unless you raise them
any commercialy bought feeders usually rosie reds/tuffies (the albino form of fat head minnows),
guppies,bait minnows etc.need to be quarantined before feeding them to your fish for several reasons.
reason 1 They are kept in horrible conditions
reason 2 They are often diseased
reason 3 They often are carriers of parasites
During quarantine dispose of the obviously sick or diseased.The remaining ones feed quality
foods a healthy feeder is of course better for your fish.
Goldfish just generaly are poor feeders and should be avoided. they are oily not very nutritious and constant feed of them causes faty deposits on the liver leading to premature deaths.They also contain very high levels of Thiaminase a destroying hormone.While many fish used as feeders contain this goldfish seem to have an abundance of it.Another issue is a spine at the front of the dorsal fin which can lead to problems if the goldfish is swollowed the wrong way (tailfirst).Yet another reason not to use goldfish,goldfish farms utilize copper meds in suspension form to combat diseases in the feeders associated with overcrowding.These copper meds are retained by the feeders for long periods after they leave the farms.Most lfs invariably retain all or part of the feeders shipping water when the feeders are loaded into their bins/tanks. And copper does not dissapate from a closed system.
The key is to balance the diet with a variety of foods listed above not just 1 or 2 items and skipping a meal once you notice a decline in growth rate is good for fish.The sad truth is we as hobbyists tend to overfeed our charges

Pellitized foods
Can be found in various diameters and forms include sinking and floating pellets and sticks
shrimp pellets
worm pellets
even pellets for cichlids will work
spirulina sticks
brine shrimp sticks
Algae wafers(some eat them some just look at them)

When feeding pellets how much to feed?
Under 7''I let them eat as much as they want several small feedings when young are better then 1 or 2 large feedings.I let juvies eat till theres a slight bulge to there bellies
This really applies to bichirs 7''+ I feed mine twice a day skipping at least one day a week
Approx. 80% of their diet is a quality pellet food the rest frozen with the ocassional live feeders after quarantine of course.
How manyPellets?
I start off with total 2 pellets per inch of fish eg. a 7'' fish gets 7 pellets in the A.M. and 7 in the evening feeding is then adjusted up or down so all pellets are consumed.Remember a nice round bichir is a happy bichir

Read the labels and look for this information
NUTRITION FOR CARNIVORES
Below are the agreed upon nutritional requirements for predatory fish
below that is a list of necessary vitamins usually supplied and just for informational
purposes.
PROTEIN:: 45% or more (this would be the ideal)
FAT:: 3% Min. to 6% Max.
FIBER 2% Min. to 4% Max

VITAMINS and what they do
(If you want to suppliment vitamins use only vitamin products developed for fish
do not use vitamnins developed for humans use.)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Fat Soluble Vitamins
VITAMIN A promotes cellular growth
Functions: - normal vision, cell growth and resistance to infection
Deficiencies: - poor growth, poor vision, abnormal bone formation and
hemorrhaging at the base of the fins
VITAMIN D3 important for developing bone
Functions: - calcium blood levels (?)
Deficiencies: - unknown
VITAMIN E important for the development of the sex organs in breeding fish
Functions: - antioxidant, may paly a role in muscle cell respiration
Deficiencies: - anemia and poor growth
-------------------------------------------------------------
Water Soluble Vitamins
VITAMIN (B1)
Functions: - Thiamine-aids growth, digestion and fertility, nervous system
Deficiencies: - poor appetite, muscle atrophy, convulsions, loss of
equilibrium and poor growth
VITAMIN B2 Riboflavin- regulates enzymes
Functions: - vision, protein metabolism and enzyme functioning
Deficiencies: - photophobia, cloudy lens, dim vision, abnormal
colouration of the iris, striated constrictions on the
abdominal wall, dark pigmentation, poor appetite,
anemia and poor growth
VITAMIN B3 Nicotinic Acid-needed for proper digestion
Functions: - plays an important role in lipid, protein and amino
acid metabolism
Deficiencies: - loss of appetite, poor growth, lesions in colon,
erratic motion and weakness, edema of stomach and
colon
VITAMIN B5 Pantothenic Acid-controls metbolism and hormones
Functions: - adrenal functioning, cholersterol production, normal
physiology and metabolism
Deficiencies: - poor growth, sluggishness, clubbed gills, loss of
appetite, hemmorhagic skin and cellular atrophy
VITAMIN B6 Pyroxidine-enzymes and metabolism of protein
Functions: - plays a vital role in enzyme systems and protein
metabolism
Deficiencies: - nervous dissorders, fits, loss of appetite, poor
growth, rapid and gasping breathing, flexing of
opercles and hyperirritability
VITAMIN B12 Cyanocobalamin- metabolism
Functions: - enzyme systems, cholesterol metabolism
Deficiencies: - poor appetite, poor growth, anemia and dark
pigmentation
VITAMIN C Ascorbic Acid- formation fo teeth and bones , healing wounds and formation of
cartillage
Functions: - enzyme systems, bone, tooth and cartilage formation
and healing
Deficiencies: - hemorrhagic shin, kidneys, liver, intestine and muscle
tissue, eye lesions and scoliosis of the spine
VITAMIN H Biotin- promotes cell growth
Functions: - enzyme systems, purine and lipid synthesis, oxidation
of lipids and carbohydrates
Deficiencies: - loss of appetite, poor growth, anemia, skin lesions
and muscle atrophy
VITAMIN M Folic Acid- formation of blood and metabolism
Functions: - blood cell formation, blood glucose regulation and
fish metabolism
Deficiencies: - poor growth, lethargy, dark skin, anemia and fragility
of the caudal fin
CHOLIN growth and breakdown nutrients (fat) regulating glucose
Functions: - good growth and food conversion
Deficiencies: - poor growth, poor food conversion, hemorrhagic kidney
and intestine
INOSITOL permeability of cell membrane
Deficiencies: - poor growth, distended stomach, skin lesions and
increased gastric emptying time
p-AMINOBENZOID ACID- stimulates growth (not proven essential)
Deficiencies: - no abnormal indication in growth, appetite and
mortality

Estimated Minimum Vitamin Requirements for aquarium fish
Vitamin A 10,000 IU
Vitamin D 2,400 IU
Vitamin E 100 Mg
Vitamin K 10 Mg
Vitamin B1 10Mg (Thiamine)
Vitamin B2 10Mg (Riboflavin)
Vitamin B3 50Mg (Niacin)(nicotinic acid and vitamin B3)
Vitamin B5 50MG (Pantothenic acid)
Vitamin B6 10Mg (Pyroxidine)
Vitamin B7 1Mg (Biotin aka vitamin H)
Vitamin B9 10Mg (Folate)
Vitamin B12 0.02Mg (Cyanocobalamin)
Vitamin C 250Mg (Ascorbic Acid)
Inositol 440Mg
Choline 2.00Mg

free in water the following happens After 30 seconds this applies to
water soluble vitamins only
Vitamin b6 loss 15%
Folic Acid loss 20%
Choline loss 30%
Panothenic acid loss 50%
Vitamin C loss 70%
Vitamin B12 loss 90%

ok i' done you can all relax now lol-Anne
 
Thanks for the above was an intresting read:) I am currently feeding a mixture of foods, i have frozen bloodworm, daphnia, brine shrimp and mussell along with hikari complete pellets and cichlid pellets(although these float mainly for the butterfly fish to eat)

The mussell seems to get ignored, the blood worm is its favourite (sometimes see it coming out of gills so presume it eat enough of them) , the daphnia and brine shrimp seems to be ignored. I've tried prawns but it doesn't seem to be bothered by them either.

at my local fish shops and pets at home there is no more frozen food than i've got as i got one of them all. I might try a grow out idea if i can get hold of a small tank for free.

I have tried feeding at various times

I might try ghost shrimp and the frogs as at least it'll be moving prey for it might make it a little more intrested. (feeder fishis out the question as the bichir isn;t much bigger than a guppy/platy etc).It go's on its tale when looking at the other fish in the tank but theyre more than double his size so not sure whats going on there.

Thanks for the info will see if my LFS can order the frogs and ghost shrimp in and see if i can get hold of a small tank from someone .

Thanks for the information again:)

Just thought i might stick a divider in my tank and give him a 1ft long part of the 4ft tank.
 
Just an update and another question

My Bichir has now started eating the crickets im putting in for my butterfly fish, it seems to catch them move them around in its mouth then swallows them hole. These make it go fat when eating as it'll eat about 3-4 of these in one feeding. (only small crickets).

Are these ok for the bichir? i'd imagine its not part of their natural diet.

there is sinking pellets in the tank as well but the bichir just ignores them
 
bump- anyone on the crickets? BeBlondie didn't mention them, if theyre bad for them ill stop feeding the african butterfly on them and try something else.

###### LFS can't get shost shrimp useless.
 
bump- anyone on the crickets? BeBlondie didn't mention them, if theyre bad for them ill stop feeding the african butterfly on them and try something else.

###### LFS can't get shost shrimp useless.

As part of a balanced diet they are ok just remember to gut load them as you should any feeder food.We are talking pinhead crickets right?
 
Not sure what type of cricket they are , they're just the small ones the local pet shop had for lizards. as for gut loading the crickets have got a little bit of potato in with them as suggested by the pet shop guy to help them last longer.

Can anyone sex it at all picture is below (looks bit full after munching a few crickets.;

 

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