goldfish help! bloated

[helptoall]

Hi, last saturday one of the golfish in the tank got inflated. I tried to take pics but theyarent good.. He is behaving normally and dosent show nay other signs, active and eating and he's scales are normal as well and he also has one red patch on the bottom of his belly. I started treatment for the whole tank 2 days after it started with kanaplex assuming this is some kind of bacterial infection. So far no improvment. I really appreciate any advice or ideas to ehat is this and how to treat,thank you!

 

[trash.binh91]

can we have more information on your goldfish?

 

[Colin_T]

Hi and welcome to the forum

If the fish is still eating and swimming around normally, then it doesn't have a bacterial or protozoan infection. The fish could be constipated if it isn't getting any or enough plant matter in its diet.

What are you feeding the fish?
Has the fish done any poop over the last couple of days?

The fish might have a hernia or intestinal worms. There is nothing you can do about a hernia and intestinal worms don't normally cause the fish to develop a large swelling over night.

Because the fish is still eating, I would feed it some aquarium plants like Duckweed or Ambulia, or some partially cooked peas, pumpkin, zucchini or cucumber. All the fish can eat this and goldfish should have some plant matter in their diet each day.

See how the fish goes after eating some plant matter and monitor its poop. If the fish is eating but not pooping, there is a problem.
If the fish is eating plant matter the poop should be green.
If the fish has worms or an internal infection, the poop will often be white and stringy.

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The Kanaplex is a strong anti-biotic that will wipe out filter bacteria and if used incorrectly can lead to drug resistant bacteria. Anti-biotics should only be used as a last resort to treat bacterial infections.

You should monitor the water quality for ammonia and nitrite over the next few weeks in case the filters have been affected by the medication.

 

[helptoall]

You can have all the info ou want just ask. And i about feeding, i feed them novo pearl by JBL whch has 20% spirulina in it. in addition i feed peas ocasionally. I have exp with bacterial infection with goldfish and i dont think that the fact he is eating disqualified this. goldfish can eat even if they feel horrible and dying..
thank for the welcoming and the help

 

[trash.binh91]

Though this may be a bit irrelevant, can I know your sized tank and your amount of fish?

 

[helptoall]

450 L 20 small to medium fish

 

[trash.binh91]

450 L 20 small to medium fish

Unless this setup is temprorary, this tank is way, way too small for 20 goldfish. Maybe you should consider getting rid of a few, or upgrading to a way larger tank. Getting back to the main point, goldfish are very high ammonia producers, and having too many in a smaller tank can be deadly.

 

[Essjay]

I agree. if you read the sticky on goldfish http://www.fishforums.net/threads/goldfish-for-beginners.417799/ you will see that you need 100 litres for the first goldfish and 50 litres for each additional fish. That's 1050 litres for 20 goldfish.
I notice that your tank has no substrate, and in the photos there doesn't appear to be any decoration at all. If this is the permanent home of the fish, you need a substrate which will be home to countless micro-organisms, and decor of some kind, preferable live plants or fake ones if necessary, will make the tank much more fish friendly and the fish less stressed.

 

[helptoall]

this is tem,porary and there are a few plastic plants and 1 photus . we let the fisv grow and then moving them to a pond

 

[fishperson100]

Does your goldfish have raised scales like a pinecone? I know that is an indicator of dropsy. I had a goldfish like that too.

 

[helptoall]

No

 

[helptoall]

Hi thanks for your respond. The current update- Ive did some water changes and treated with kanaplex and levamisol HCL. its been4 days since i finished the kanaplex treatment and 1 week since the levamisole dose and 10 days since the fish started to look bloated. There is no improvment ,however for all this time the fish is active, swimming and eating. I also didnt feed the tank for 4 days and today started giving peas. Any new ideas? there is no scale pertruding at all, dosent look like dropsy.

 

[helptoall]

The fish is the same . its been over 2 weeks. She is eating and acting normal but she is very bloated and her feces are white . for the last 3 days all the fish have pooped white and long poop. one of them seems lethargic and when i feed he eats but after a minute he spit the food out. Im very worried , i think i have an out break of something. I treated the tank with kanaplex about 10 days ago and with levamisole. Do you have ideas what is this? TY

 

[Colin_T]

Metronidazole can be used to treat internal protozoan infections in fish. It is made for humans and should only be used as a last resort because improper use can lead to drug resistance in some disease organisms. You might require a vet or doctor prescription to get it depending on which country you live in.

Metronidazole is sometimes mixed with Praziquantel and sold at pet shops as an internal parasite treatment.

 

[helptoall]

Hi, yesterday one of the goldfish has started to show signs of breathing distress,hanging on the top of the tank breathing very fast with his mouth open. i also saw him scratching on the glass a few times,he also dosent eat.its the same goldfish that was lethargic a few days ago.Assuming its gill flukes I treated with Gyrodol by JBL {praziquantel} yesterday and there isnt any imrovment for now.How much time do you think it supposed to take till imrovmrnt shows? Do you think i should try other meds ot treatments{like salt}? Do ou think it might be something else besides gill flukes?There was an overall improvment in the tank after the metro treatment with more healthy poop,however the bloated one is still bloated and this fish is still pooping white poop. i atrted yesterday with the epsom salt treatment with the food. Im alo thinking wether or not i should quarntine him,the cons mostly are the stress factor for him,when he has such and hard time breathing i think even a little stress can be very bad.
another thing is ther treatment routine of the Gyrodol,The med saying to treat the tank once{dosgae is 10ml which is 15mg of prazi for 50 L} then wait 48 hours then water change 50% and the reapeat after 7 days,i know there are other protocols and dosages with prazi, do you reccomend something else? Thank you