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Fish Flashing?

Discussion in 'Tropical Fish Emergencies' started by aquarium3, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. aquarium3

    aquarium3 New Member

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    So this has been an ongoing event my fish have been flashing for about 3 months and I cannot figure out what it is, could it possibly be high nitrate levels? My nitrates and ammonia are zero, but do not know what my nitrates because I was going to order API nitrate tester along with my other test bottles but they could not ship the nitrate tester to me.

     
  2. Colin_T

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    How long has the tank been set up for?
    How often do you do water changes and how much water do you change?
    Do you use dechlorinated water for the water changes?
    Do you gravel clean the substrate when doing water changes?

    What fish are in the tank?
    Did you add any fish about 3 months ago, just before this started?

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    Ammonia, nitrite and nitrate will all irritate fish and can cause them to rub on objects but normally it is a protozoan infection. You can try doing a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate each day for a week and that will reduce nitrates and help for minor health issues. However, it won't cure protozoan infections.

    Do any of the fish have cream, white, grey or red patches on their body or fins?
    Do any of them have small white spots on their body or fins?
    Can you post a picture of the fish and maybe a short 20second video of them rubbing on things?

    After you turn the tank lights out tonight, shine a torch on the fish and look for a gold sheen. If any of the fish have a gold sheen on their body, they have Velvet (Oodinium) and that can be treated with heat (30C for 2 weeks) or any white spot medication.

    To work out the volume of water in the tank:
    measure length x width x height in cm.
    divide by 1000.
    = volume in litres.
    When you measure the height, measure from the top of the substrate to the top of the water level.

    There is a calculator/ converter in the "How To Tips" at the top of this page that will let you convert litres to gallons if you need it.

    Remove carbon from the filter before treating or it will absorb the medication and stop it working.

    Wipe the inside of the glass down, do a 75% water change and complete gravel clean. And clean the filter before treating. Make sure any new water is free of chlorine/ chloramine before it is added to the tank.

    Increase surface turbulence/ aeration when using medications because they reduce the dissolved oxygen in the water.
     
  3. aquarium3

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    The tank has been established for about a year. I try to do a 50% water change each week, and dechlorinate it with API dechlorinator, I also use a gravel vac when I clean the tank.
     
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    What type of fish do you have
     
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    Oh yes I have a ten gallon tank soon to be 20 long. The tank is severely over stocked due to my beginner mistakes I was just going off if the tank looked full or not and apparently that's not how its done it has 4 cherry barbs, honey gourami, south American bumblebee catfish, leopard danio, Cory cat, Australian rainbow, and a 1 inch bn pleco.
     
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    Did you add any fish about 3 months ago, just before this started?

    Do any of the fish have cream, white, grey or red patches on their body or fins?
    Do any of them have small white spots on their body or fins?

    Can you post a picture of the fish and maybe a short 20second video of them rubbing on things?
     
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    I do not really remember of I added anything before it started, the body's of the fish look healthy no discoloration, they do not have any white spots. But I did have a ich outbreak once and they were flashing when they had ich but I treated them for it. Bit they have not stopped flashing since.
     
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    How long ago did you have whitespot (Ich) in the tank?

    How long did you treat it for?

    What did you use to treat it?

    Can you post a picture of the fish?

    Can you post a short 20second video of them rubbing on things?
     
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    I think my tank first had ich about 4 months ago. I treated for about 4 weeks with API super ick cure WP_20181113_003.jpg here's a picture of my bumblebee catfish.
     
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    The bumblebee catfish has a couple of small spots that could be colouration or something else.
    1 spot is on the dark patch just under the dorsal fin, where it meets the body.
    Several spots on the pectoral fin.

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    Assuming the water is good (0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, nitrates less than 20ppm, pH around 7.0), and there are no chemicals in the water that are causing the irritation, I would say there is a low grade protozoan infection in the tank. It could be whitespot, velvet, Trichodina, Costia, Chilodonella or something else.

    You could try heat treatment where you increase the water temperature to 30C and keep it at 30C for 2 weeks. That should kill all the different types of protozoans in the water. Clean the tank and filter before raising the temperature, and increase aeration/ surface turbulence to maximise the oxygen levels in the water.

    Or you could try medication again, but I would try heat first because it doesn't involve chemicals.
     
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    If you are referring to the white spots that is sand he likes to dig around the sand alot and the sand likes to stick to him. Probably was not the best fish for the picture I will have to try to get a picture of the cherry barbs but they constantly move.
     

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