[Synirr]

Here's my newest addition, Heinkel!
I had been debating on whether or not to get this guy/girl for several months, and I finally gave it. I'd prefer that he/she had a tail, for his/her own sake, but I'm happy to give him/her a home, anyway. He/she's getting along very well with my oscar, Aristotle, and my senegal bichir, Eligos.
He/she has been dyed, but it is quickly fading. The orange is natural, but there's a bit of pale blue still left on his/her back. My LFS owner is against selling dyed fish, but she'd go out of business in no time if she didn't.
On to the pics!:

What a cutey


That clown loach is such a ham!

This post has been edited by Synirr: 21 December 2004 - 06:30 AM

[Gill]

He's Pretty,

I see what you Mean about the Elongated Shape, He Looks like he has Midas In Him from the Shape.

[fufanu360]

WHOA!!! thats odd no tail!?!?!

[Discomafia]

Nice pic, but OUCH! what happened to the tail!

[sylvia]

They're bred like that aren't they?
Cute... but it's a shame about being dyed and having no tail - fish realy shouldn't need to deal with that. It's good you're giving him/her a good home now though

[a.i.m]

if people didnt buy dyed fish it would stop the trade , theres a huge campaign going on trying to stop this trade from happening! !

[Sasha]

Gorgeous fish!

[Synirr]

My buying this fish isn't going to encourage the dyed fish trade... otherwise I wouldn't have bought it. My LFS wasn't planning to reorder any more of them anyway.
And yeah, sylvia, being tailless is a mutation in blood parrots that some people are breeding for nowadays.
I really do wish this fish had a tail and whatnot, but it deserves a home, anyway... and besides, it's just so cute!

[Wisperian]

some people are tried and have bred parrots so that they do not have a tail



btw.. he's gorgeouussssss

[Ben]

hes awsome

you candefinitly see the midas in him

dd

[Vip]

Thats no blood parrot but it is a deformed Midas Cichlid. Watch out they are highly agressive and shoudnt be housed with loachs or other small fish it will still hit the 14" mark.

[Synirr]

Vip, on Dec 18 2004, 05:04 AM, said:

Thats no blood parrot but it is a deformed Midas Cichlid. Watch out they are highly agressive and shoudnt be housed with loachs or other small fish it will still hit the 14" mark.

Actually, it's a young blood parrot. My LFS owner and I are on very good terms, and I feel certain she wouldn't lie to me (especially knowing I don't usually like how blood parrots look, lol!) She said she has raised blood parrots before, and is always surprised by the way they change from what mine looks like now into their adult form. I'd actually be really happy if he did end up looking more like a midas... If he starts getting aggressive, I'll move the loaches, but at this point he hasn't bothered anything.
Edit: Actually, I've already observed a little change in him since I first saw him at the pet shop months ago... that bump on his nose is relatively new. I figure that will continue to grow until it reshapes his face like a blood parrot's.

This post has been edited by Synirr: 18 December 2004 - 08:23 AM

[mwm]

Yah that isnt a blood parrot but its cool lookin
Heres a picture of a Blood Parrot

[Vip]

Im on good terms with my LFS as well, but they try to lie to me to get me to buy things, im 110% for sure that is no blood parrot the marking are a Midas as well as the body and the head and mouth.

[Willie]

I'm backing up Vip on this one. That is not a Blood Parrot. It's a young Midas. It's not even close to being a deformed parrot. Do you see its coloration? The white base with orange blotches, thats no Blood Parrot coloration, its a Midas Coloration. Also, they don't always breed to get the fish to have no tails, they mostly just cut the tails right off. Congrats, you've just added to the dying of fish, and the inhumane 'torture'' of fish.

If I were you i would listen to Vip, he is very expiranced with aggressive cichlids, oh and, I've never heard of anybody being on good terms with their LFS owner, they are not one bit knowledgable about fish.

This post has been edited by Ron: 19 December 2004 - 03:15 AM

[Vip]

Your fish in about 2 years time. at 13"

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[gixer]

deffinatly not a blood parrot. looks like a midas hybrid to me...with what i have no idea.

just be careful. could turn pretty agro

[Puffer_freak]

Nice fish, and although I know Nothing! about cichlids, I have to agree with Vip, Ron and mwm. That isn't a blood parrot, it's a midas, just by looking at the comparisons, and also knowing that vip is a cichlid fanatic!

LFS owners will lie to you. You have already said that if she didn't sell dyed fish, she would go out of business (I'm sure this is not true BTW). Think about this: if she didn't lie then she would go out of business too. Also, even the import places have a habit of labelling them wrong, so she might not even know...

NICE FISH ANYHOO!

[Synirr]

Well... SWEET!!! Thanks guys. I would absolutely love it if this fella turned out to be a midas. I talked to my LFS owner about it, and she said she honestly didn't know... she had some blood parrots a while back that were supposedly severum/pink convict, and she said they looked very unlike blood parrots when she first got them but they eventually grew to look like normal blood parrots. She figured these would do the same, but admitted they do seem a bit old to start undergoing a drastic change of shape at this point.
The fish I bought was sold to her as a blood parrot, and given that, I'm pretty sure it is at least partially blood parrot (unless you guys have heard of people breeding tailless midas?) but I am actually hoping it turns out more midas-like than parrot-like. Maybe it's a blood parrot-midas cross?
As for his tail being cut off... Ron, you seem sure of yourself. I've seen fish with their tails manually removed in pictures and at my other LFS, and by comparison, I'd say this one is bred to have no tail. Admittedly, there's no way for me to be sure of that, but you can usually tell that there was a spot the tail used to be when it has been cut off, and by the way the fins and whatnot are positioned on my fish, I don't think that's the case. The less of a gap there is between the dorsal and anal fins at the back, the less likely the tail has been manually removed. My fish's fins actually touch back there... Here's a fish whose back end looks much like parrots I've seen with their tails manually removed. Either way, I have not "added" to the dyieng and torture of fish, because like I said before, my LFS was not planning to reorder any more of these anyway. They simply aren't selling fast enough. My LFS hasn't sold any sort of large fish in ages, it seems (to anyone but me, that is )

Considering my LFS owner knows how much I usually dislike blood parrots, I'm sure she wasn't telling me these things in order to get me to buy one ! I'm just rambling now, but I really do feel the need to defend her... she's a good woman who really cares about her fish, and wouldn't knowingly lie to anyone about them. She might neglect to tell you some things if you don't ask, but she's not going to lie to your face

This post has been edited by Synirr: 19 December 2004 - 08:59 PM

[Synirr]

Sorry to double post, but I finally found a pic of what are supposedly young baby blood parrots! I was looking for one before I bought my fish, to see if he looked like they do. From what I can see in that pic, those babies don't look like adult blood parrots yet... but they also don't look too much like my fish, so yeah, hopefully he'll look more like a midas
This is what I was confused about. I knew he didn't look anything like an adult blood parrot, but young severums don't look too much like the adults to me, so I figured maybe he was going to change as he grew, like they do. Having never seen really small blood parrots before, I didn't know what to expect.

This post has been edited by Synirr: 19 December 2004 - 09:17 PM