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#1 Nik

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Posted 12 June 2003 - 10:33 AM

Have 1 cold water tank which since the arrival of our weak summer has started to cultivate some brown algae. :angry:

What type of algae eaters can you get for a cold water tank set up?? -_-

The tank already holds:

2 standard goldfish
2 black moors
2 fan tails
1 weather loach

#2 pondfreak4365

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 12:54 PM

Nik,
Wish I could help with a recommendation. I am a slave to scrubbing the algae :D

#3 Nik

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 02:27 PM

In some shops I have seen standard Plecs cleaning cold or temperate tanks. I may gamble and try one as I have a few in my tropical tanks.

Just thought I'd check if there were any special algae eaters for a cold water set up.

I'll let you know what happens :/ :/

Alternately back to scrubbing :crazy:

#4 EddieW

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 03:25 PM

I am not 100% sure but I think most plecos want temps at least in the mid 20s C (upper 70s F). You would also need to make sure that whichever pleco you choose is an algae eater.

Some species of Ancistrus can cope with temps down to 15C (59F).

Chinese Algae Eater can apparently cope in cold water according to one site, but another says they stop eating if the temp drops too much. However, they do stop eating algae when they get to adulthood and they find the slime coat of other fish quite tasty. Not really to be recommended.

Probably the best bet would be a snail - make sure it is one that can thrive at lower temps and that it is not one of the types that will reproduce on it's own and infest the tank. I can't suggest a type as I don't know a lot about snails.

HTH, Eddie

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Posted 30 June 2003 - 08:57 PM

Golden Loaches or butterfly plecos. But buy the ones that are already in the coldwater tanks with goldfish.

#6 Nik

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Posted 01 July 2003 - 08:55 AM

Eddie & DG

Thanks for the tips. I shall visit my LFS's and see if I can find some of these recommendations.

Good bye scrubbing pads! :lol:

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 01:48 PM

np

#8 Jamnog

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Posted 02 July 2003 - 03:47 PM

no plecs dont do well in cold water none of the alge eaters ive seen are good in cold water. i would suggest a cold water snail. even snails can die in cold water be shure what your getting is suitable for cold water how cold is the water? is it sub tropical lik 15-20 degrees or is it cold like 8?

#9 Nik

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Posted 03 July 2003 - 12:42 PM

I have the "coldwater" tank running at 18oc.

Was told that some of the fancy goldfish prefer a temperate environment. All seem to be doing well with good growth rates. I guess the temperature may also aid algae growth.

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Posted 03 July 2003 - 12:46 PM

Those buttryfly plecs were specifically sold for goldfish tanks.
But i've seen a thread somewhere in think in the general fish page that they are actually some type of loach.

#11 Nik

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Posted 03 July 2003 - 01:33 PM

I'll start with the Butterlfy Plec then and see what happens. There's always room elsewhere for the plec if he doesn't get on.

Cheers DG.

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Posted 03 July 2003 - 07:47 PM

http://fish.orbust.n...=ST&f=22&t=7209

here it is

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Posted 04 July 2003 - 03:53 AM

I have one of those cold water guys. I've seen them called Butterfly Plecos. They are a loach. They are also called a Hillstream Loach. Here's some picture's of the 1 I have.

http://www.geocities...o1989/hill.html

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Posted 08 July 2003 - 10:06 AM

Hey Nik,

Did you get one? If so how did it go cos my m8's got a goldfish tank and i'm gonna tell him to get a pair as well.

#15 Nik

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Posted 08 July 2003 - 10:40 AM

DG

No I haven't got one yet but will let you know as and when I do.

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Posted 08 July 2003 - 03:21 PM

Hiya
The fish you're talking about are called hillstream loaches, and they do best in small groups. They're great to watch and fantastic at eating algae. I had three but two died then one just disappeared...think it must have died then got chewed up by the filter...anyway. I recommend them.

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Posted 13 July 2003 - 08:03 PM

u can get sucker for cold water tanks but i dont know what there names r i have been lookin for one to but i have that brown algae problem and i bought this special thing that u put in your fish tank its a bag and its take nitrate etc out and keeps the water clean and the brown algae way have a look for it . its in a green box. open it and see if its a bag then u know :D

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:53 PM

Hello folks, I'm new to the forum. I've had four standard plecos 3-4" over a month in a 60 gal coldwater tank, with the temperature at 69 degrees. All died after a four days. The Goldfish and Koi are fine, as are the two standard Chinese Algae Eaters, and one all pure yellow one, though I've had a couple of those died also. And it's not thriving like the standard ones are.

I have an aquatic biologist fellow at my local (Pa.) fish store, and he says there's a small native species called a stone turner that flips off the algae both for fun and eating, in small Pa streams. I can't find it in a detailed fish listing. Anybody have a reference or source for this? I'd like to go native if I can. I have a 1/4 million gallon Koi and goldfish pond I had to kill off last year, and am starting over with babies I grow a bit in my 60 gal tank.

So, where do we get the Hillside Loaches? Is there a good cheap source in or near Pa.? Or in general for fish? I also want high quality baby "Butterfly" or "Fantail" frilly Koi. Bill

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 11:21 PM

Hillstream loaches are a very specialised fish that need a totally different kind of environment to your normal coldwater fish. They come from fast flowing mountain streams and need very clean and well oxygenated water. They also prefer temperatures around 20-24 degrees. Lastly, they do not eat algae, they eat microscopic organisms known as aufwuchs which live in and on the algae.

They will not thrive with goldfish etc as the water will be badly polluted, too cold and too stagment.

I currently have a river tank set up and have done a lot of research into these little fellows.

Edited by fishprotector, 10 February 2012 - 11:22 PM.


#20 FishLover4+1

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 04:45 PM

for small goldfish can i recomend snails??? but when they get bigger (the goldfish) the snails will be eaten!!! feed algae wafers but watch out 'cos my fany goldfish were eating them (the wafers).
i also like algae magnets 'cos theyre really easy to use!!!
and fishprotecter: how do you set up a river tank??? i'm presuming you cant use standard filters that suck in and push out water from the same end???




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