Jump to content


Photo

Possible Heater Problems


  • Please log in to reply
18 replies to this topic

#1 Seal36

Seal36

    Fishaholic

  • Member
  • 612 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom

Posted 24 December 2013 - 04:03 PM

I have the super fish 100w heater and I'm not sure if it's working or not as I don't see the light come on that often with my last heater I would see the on light light up quite a lot. Is there a way to test the temperature of the water and all the fish seem happy in the tank and if I increase the temperature on the side of the heater the light switches on which makes me think that it works but I just wonder why I don't see the light come on that often. Thanks for any help from Tom

#2 Blubble37

Blubble37

    Ohai dere c:

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 2,340 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom
  • Real Name:Rob

Posted 24 December 2013 - 04:06 PM

if the light comes on when you increase the temp, it's operational, it might just be murphy's law that it comes on whenever you dont look. if you're really worried, set a camera up

 

yeah, you can test the temp of the water with an alcohol or digital thermometer. they do ones that stick on the inside of the tank. Dont bother with the plastic strip ones, they measure room temperature just as much as they measure tank temperature


Edited by Blubble37, 24 December 2013 - 04:07 PM.


#3 KirkyArcher

KirkyArcher

    Fish Addict

  • Member
  • 949 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom

Posted 24 December 2013 - 04:13 PM

If your previous heater wasn't rated as high in wattage as your new one then it would come on more frequently, always best toi have additional means to ensure temperature is relatively stable 2-3 degrees change over several hours isn't anything to be concerned about :)



#4 Seal36

Seal36

    Fishaholic

  • Member
  • 612 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom

Posted 24 December 2013 - 04:37 PM

My old heater was a 50w for a 40 litre and this one is a 100w for a 70 litre. I have seen some digital thermometers with suction cups on how good are they are do they go on the outside or inside of the tank and can I just put them on when I need them or should they be on the tank at all times. I'm not that worried as It does switch on when I increase the temperature and if I was not working I'm sure the fish would show some signs as it has been in operation for over 24 hours now. Also can I use the thermometer that you use to measure a child's temperate to take the temperature of the tank from Tom

#5 eaglesaquarium

eaglesaquarium

    Life, Liberty and the pursuit of the perfect fish tank

  • Global Moderator
  • 9,903 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United States
  • Real Name:JD

Posted 24 December 2013 - 05:09 PM

A thermometer is basic fish keeping equipment. I use the alcohol thermometers, because I'm 'old school', and honestly, the exact temperature is meaningless to me, but the fact that the temperature is stable is all that I care about.

 

 

I'd add that digital or electronic thermometers have a lot more 'failure' points than an alcohol thermometer.  The alcohol will expand and contract based on the temperature of the water and you will have a reliable, fool-proof way of determining the temperature of your tank.  For that reason, I don't see the need to add the extra expense for a digital thermometer - and I personally would still go with the alcohol thermometers, even if they cost more.



#6 Blubble37

Blubble37

    Ohai dere c:

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 2,340 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom
  • Real Name:Rob

Posted 24 December 2013 - 05:13 PM

My old heater was a 50w for a 40 litre and this one is a 100w for a 70 litre. I have seen some digital thermometers with suction cups on how good are they are do they go on the outside or inside of the tank and can I just put them on when I need them or should they be on the tank at all times. I'm not that worried as It does switch on when I increase the temperature and if I was not working I'm sure the fish would show some signs as it has been in operation for over 24 hours now. Also can I use the thermometer that you use to measure a child's temperate to take the temperature of the tank from Tom

that'll be either a plastic strip or a metal tip, in either case, not really suitable, alcohol thermomrters are quite inexpensive and will do the job just as well, but thw whole time, i would suggest buying one of them rather than looking for alternate solutions that, imho, aren't worth the constant effort

 

Digital thermometers stay on the whole time there is a charged battery within them, unless you have one with a power switch, the ones with suction cups go inside, the ones with a sensor and a lead (like mine) go on the outside, with the sensor inside the tank

 

A thermometer is basic fish keeping equipment. I use the alcohol thermometers, because I'm 'old school', and honestly, the exact temperature is meaningless to me, but the fact that the temperature is stable is all that I care about.

 

 

I'd add that digital or electronic thermometers have a lot more 'failure' points than an alcohol thermometer.  The alcohol will expand and contract based on the temperature of the water and you will have a reliable, fool-proof way of determining the temperature of your tank.  For that reason, I don't see the need to add the extra expense for a digital thermometer - and I personally would still go with the alcohol thermometers, even if they cost more.

i agree with the failure points, however i'm a tad of a perfectionist.. i still use alcohol as a backup though


Edited by Blubble37, 24 December 2013 - 05:15 PM.


#7 eaglesaquarium

eaglesaquarium

    Life, Liberty and the pursuit of the perfect fish tank

  • Global Moderator
  • 9,903 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United States
  • Real Name:JD

Posted 24 December 2013 - 05:20 PM

You know they make alcohol thermometers with a finer gradient scale. :P



#8 Blubble37

Blubble37

    Ohai dere c:

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 2,340 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom
  • Real Name:Rob

Posted 24 December 2013 - 05:29 PM

You know they make alcohol thermometers with a finer gradient scale. tongue2.gif

ayee, but i'm a digital age kid ;)



#9 eaglesaquarium

eaglesaquarium

    Life, Liberty and the pursuit of the perfect fish tank

  • Global Moderator
  • 9,903 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United States
  • Real Name:JD

Posted 24 December 2013 - 05:47 PM

To each their own, I suppose.



#10 Blubble37

Blubble37

    Ohai dere c:

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 2,340 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom
  • Real Name:Rob

Posted 24 December 2013 - 05:55 PM

To each their own, I suppose.

indeed c: i use both types anyway so i always have a backup, and i look at both aswell



#11 Seal36

Seal36

    Fishaholic

  • Member
  • 612 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom

Posted 24 December 2013 - 10:03 PM

Can someone post a picture of an alcohol thermometer as I can't seem to find one that's made for aquariums and also out of the pictures attached which thermometer is more reliable and better for getting an accurate temperature from Tom

Attached Files



#12 eaglesaquarium

eaglesaquarium

    Life, Liberty and the pursuit of the perfect fish tank

  • Global Moderator
  • 9,903 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United States
  • Real Name:JD

Posted 24 December 2013 - 10:20 PM

Here ya go.

http://www.petsathom...by-marina-16336

12534.jpg



#13 Seal36

Seal36

    Fishaholic

  • Member
  • 612 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom

Posted 24 December 2013 - 10:30 PM

Is that the most reliable and accurate of all 3 and how easy is it to read because the others have big numbers on them and also the digital ones can be 1c above or below the acutaually temperature what is that one like from Tom

#14 Ch4rlie

Ch4rlie

    Mostly New Father

  • Moderators
  • 3,714 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom

Posted 24 December 2013 - 10:45 PM

I actually use all three of these different types for both my tanks!

 

Yeah, I know a little OTT but thats just me, in fact all three pretty much say the same temp give or take a half degree or so, therefore all these are pretty accurate I think.

 

As Eagles says, as long as temperature is steady and stable close enough to your desired temp thats all that really matters TBH.



#15 Seal36

Seal36

    Fishaholic

  • Member
  • 612 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom

Posted 24 December 2013 - 10:55 PM

Ok thank you very much I think I will go for the first picture that I put as it's quite small and It won't make the tank look weird, also do I need to leave it on all the time or can I just turn it on and off when I need to use it. Also is there somewhere in the tank I need to put it or can I out it anywhere. Also what do I do if my heater is not working at the right temperature from Tom

#16 eaglesaquarium

eaglesaquarium

    Life, Liberty and the pursuit of the perfect fish tank

  • Global Moderator
  • 9,903 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United States
  • Real Name:JD

Posted 24 December 2013 - 10:56 PM

:rolleyes: 

 

Only very rarely does the specific temperature really matter, honestly.  These fish live in rivers in nature, where the temperatures fluctuate daily, as well as seasonally.  So for me, I go with the most reliable one, which just happens to be the cheapest option as well.



#17 Seal36

Seal36

    Fishaholic

  • Member
  • 612 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom

Posted 24 December 2013 - 11:00 PM

Ok and with the one that I have chosen I have some questions
1.do I need to keep it on all the time or can I just turn it on when I need it.
2. Is there anywhere specific it needs to be placed
3. Can I use it in more than 1 tank or should I get 1 for each tank
4. What do I do if my heater is not putting out the right temperature it's set

Thanks for all your help from Tom

#18 eaglesaquarium

eaglesaquarium

    Life, Liberty and the pursuit of the perfect fish tank

  • Global Moderator
  • 9,903 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United States
  • Real Name:JD

Posted 24 December 2013 - 11:02 PM

Move the thermometer around a bit to see how close the temp matches around the tank... but basically it shouldn't be that different unless you have very little movement.


Ok and with the one that I have chosen I have some questions
1.do I need to keep it on all the time or can I just turn it on when I need it. - LEAVE IT ON ALL THE TIME, OTHERWISE YOU WON'T KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM
2. Is there anywhere specific it needs to be placed - FAR FROM THE HEATER IS BEST
3. Can I use it in more than 1 tank or should I get 1 for each tank - ONE PER TANK IS STANDARD
4. What do I do if my heater is not putting out the right temperature it's set - ADJUST IT... TURN IT UP OR DOWN A LITTLE AND RECHECK IN A FEW HOURS.

Thanks for all your help from Tom



#19 Seal36

Seal36

    Fishaholic

  • Member
  • 612 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United Kingdom

Posted 24 December 2013 - 11:04 PM

Ok thank you very much will place the order right now




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users